105217, I agree with Bags + This post is sorta retarded. Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jun-25-07 11:43 AM
From what I'm reading, this is nothing more than a classic double standard(but what the fuck else is new):
When blacks support comedies that are *allegedly* unfunny, that support sticks to the race, as if there is something specific about blackness, and its culture, that facilitates the support of the unfunny comedy. In this situation the suggested solution is a cultural one, that is, black people need to stop supporting unfunny, or "coonish" comedy.
White people, however, are immune to such cultural "stickiness" -- When legions of white people like dumbshit(as they do all the fucking time) its written off as random, not "stuck" to their whiteness specifically, and so no pundit is around to talk about how white people need to improve their taste in movies(when, again, they like just as much dumbass shit as anyone else).
Black pundits(like BigNick in PTP), on the other hand, endlessly bitch and moan about black people's propensity to support substandard nonsense. These people are idiots, of course, because black people aren't any more close-minded, actually, than white people.
Lest you don't believe that, tell me how successful the black version of '300' was(hypothetical, of course).
Lol. It was never made. The white '300', however, was a smashing box office success.
This despite the fact that it was a horrid, expensive movie with no redeeming value of any kind other than the guts and fights(and the fights still weren't any better choreographed than the fights in all them other epic movies).
That, and the film had nothing to do with black people(except for the persian african nigga with the light eyes who got kilt).
Even better, its success had nothing to do with black people.
White people funded, and saw, that horrific nonsense.
Upon its great success, I saw no punditry about white people's lack of appreciation for good scripts and stories.
Its quite odd then how I saw dozens of criticisms of black taste in films when 'Hustle and Flow' became somewhat of a commercial success("Why do we worship pimps??!!!!!")
Not to mention that conversations like these tend to be hegemonic in terms of defining what is artistic or funny versus what isn't -- I thought 'Sideways' was the biggest bunch of horeshit in the universe. I found none of it funny, or relevant, or interesting, at all. I'd rather see 'Little Man' three times than have to see half of that movie again.
Now, I wish a motherfucker would say I have a bad taste in films because of it.
And I dare someone call the writers of 'Sideways' more "artistic" than the Wayans brothers.
What would be the justification of such?
Lol.
Because the 'Sideways' writers know about wine?
Fuck outta here, really.
In the end, Bags is right because its all about opportunity.
Black people are no worse for ethnic self-promotion than ethnic whites(Italians, and Irish mostly) and Jews are.
The latter three do the shit faaaar more than black people in general, and that ethnic self-promotion is directly responsible for their success in various fields(including entertainment).
That being the case, yes, O_E does support black, latino, and asian films and filmmakers, and will continue to do so, in large part because of the lack of equal opportunity.
I also support minority films and fillmakers because the PROBABILITY that their comedy is something I can *dig* or relate to is often quite high, that is, assuming the film is made fairly well.
I thought 'American Beauty' and 'Sideways' were D+ fims at best, and yes, the white maleness of both of those films likely had something to do with the fact that I couldn't relate. Now, certainly there are blacks who did relate to both. Good for them.
I didn't.
I'm very educated, so you can't pull that card(for people who simply say that only intelligent people *got* Sideways).
I just happen to be very black, and raised very lower-middle class/poor, and am in love with every second of it.
That being the case, there is comedy that by PROBABILITY might relate to my demographic more than some.
Its not absolute.
I think a lot of black films are retarded.
I also think some white films are retarded.
It becomes interesting when the world(i.e.. Golden Globe people, Academy people, internet film crowd) has tastes far different than mine.
Instead of feeling inferior for being different, I've decided to strike back and ask why *THEY* thought that 'Feeling Minnesota' was a good movie. I can't, for the life of me, think of why.
Instead of chastizing BLACK people for liking "bad" or "non artistic" or "substandard" films, we need to ask why WHITE people have established such a hegemony over what is artisitc and considered "sophisticated".
I still can't get any of you to tell me what was great about 'Sideways', for example.
Your reasons are as arbitrary, and baseless, as my reasons for liking 'Little Man'.
And I'm smart enough to defend my stance, probably better than you can defend yours.
Mang.
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