I should've raised the price.

And I like comic heroes more than Star Trek in general, btw. I just think Trek will be better reviewed, have better legs, and easily be the bigger hit.

I dunno. I mean, in theory I agree.... but I still feel like the words STAR and TREK will keep enough people away to give Wolvie the edge.

What I'm tryin' to say is... I can see it making more money, but not enough to drop a Bengie on. lol

I actually think he'd take it. He is SO sure Wolverine will be a big hit.

I think it'll make bank... but more than Star Trek? Fuck outta here!!

I think the mediocrity of X3 and just the over-expanding of the franchise will kill the demand for Wolverine more than anything. that's weird to say when comparing to star trek but trek is starting over again and is already getting much better reviews.

As popular as Wolverine is he does not have the following of Star Trek. Not to mention I think Star Trek looks like the better movie.


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Its overwhelmingly positive reviews work in my favor.

It is possible Wolverine has the bigger opening weekend. But Trek will have the legs.

Those flicks don't gross that much. THis one will be totally different I'm sure, but...

• "Star Trek: First Contact"-- $146 million.
• "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"--$139 million.
• "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home"--$133 million.
• "Star Trek Generations"--$120 million.
• "Star Trek: Insurrection"--$118 million.
• "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan"--$97 million.
• "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country"--$96.9 million.
• "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock"--$87 million.
• "Star Trek Nemesis"--$67 million.
• "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier"--$63 million.

The first X MEN flick out grossed the two highest grossing Trek flicks combined with $296.3 million. X2? $407.7 mil. Even shitty ass 3? $459.3 mil.

I think the new Trek will still beat Wolvie... but as I said, I ain't puttin' a hundo down on it.

that was a horrrible movie.

You see how the quality of Insurrection affected Nemesis, and how Nemesis affected ST movies in general.

Especially the ones done in the '80s, where ticket price were considerably lower. I think maybe one or two Star Trek movies have come out since the first X-Men flick.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/inflation.php


X-Men: $209,538,399
X2: $255,942,330
X-Men: The Last Stand: $256,904,198


Star Trek: The Motion Picture: $113,446,793
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan: $192,037,012
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock: $152,305,290
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home: $204,731,202
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country: $110,678,128
Star Trek: First Contact: $148,984,986
Star Trek: Generations: $132,423,181
Star Trek: Insurrection: $106,080,472

Yes, X-Men still wins, but the first X-Men movie did not sell more tickets than the top two selling Star Trek movies.


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i got wildly different numbers from box office mojo

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as said above, never underestimate the power of Star Trek. The previews have looked great and it is getting much better reviews than Wolverine.

Throw in the fact it is somewhat of a reboot so you don't have to be a hardcore Star Trek fan to know what is going on should bring some people in. I think the positive word of mouth is going to drive this movie much higher than people are anticipating.

Good bet.


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You won!!!
And from what I've been reading ST so far is getting GREAT reviews.

...I get the feeling Star Trek will be much more of a hit than Wolverine. You KNOW how dedicated those Trekkies are plus it looks like it will be the better flick out of the two. Is it me or do those Wolverine previews seem too lighthearted? They should've kept that movie grimy like it was intended to be.

Also, am I the only one who has ever felt that Hugh Jackman should've never been picked to play Wolverine? I've always felt casting should've picked someone who had a grimier feel to play that role.




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>Also, am I the only one who has ever felt that Hugh Jackman
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or after a certain amount of weeks?

But this shit looks GOOD

I almost don't feel like I'm *allowed* to get hype for it though, on account of having virtually nothing to do with the franchise up until now.

But the buzz is strong from both trekkies and non trekkies, so I'm thinking this could be the big hit of the summer

(not one episode of the original series, any of the spinoffs or the films) and i'm gonna check that shit out

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And is he taking any others? I got $200 on the sun rising tomorrow.

I really believe ST will outperform Wolverine.

maybe this dude is gonna wanna hold out until 8 years after the DVD releases, maybe examine the action figure sales, etc.

maybe if he said "for the weekend of May 1st, 2009"

We clarified. He is CONVINCED he's gonna win.

OR you're in trouble. However, I saw Wolverine. Sadly that movie doesn't have much legs. I'm a huge Wolvie fan and would not have seen this movie if I weren't. Like others have said in this post I'm no Trekkie or Trekker but I'm still seeing this movie.
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alot of movies might not make as much as was originally anticipated.

star trek's IMAX numbers prolly beat wolvie after a couple weeks.

you should definitely try and raise the bet.
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I wouldn't take a hundred dollar bet, but I wouldn't be surprised if Wolverine opened bigger and stayed a little above Star Trek there after.

Harry Potter might have something to say about that... LOL


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last couple of Star Trek movies didn't fair that well, especially since Shatner isn't in this one. Most Trekkies are very faithful to that original cast and this is some prequel shit that may not go over well with them. Others will see it out of curiosity, me I'll wait till it hits blockbuster.


Shit happens

it's a great franchise with a loyal legion of fans, but for the past decade or so, Paramount has been woefully underserving them.

Somebody has taken up the franchise mantle and prettied it up.

I haven't even really watched any Star Trek since Deep Space 9, but I, and a bunch of my friends, are going to be at the front of the line on Friday to see this one. I *want* to love outer space adventure stories, but this franchise hasn't given me a reason to be excited about them until I heard about this film. Shit, even Star Wars managed to completely piss off their fanbase. People are DYING to see a good space adventure, it's been a while. Shatner's involvement would hinder more than help this film.

Oh, and, meanwhile comic book fans have been getting the best comic films of their lives recently (X-Men films, Iron Man, Nolan Batman films (although, yes, I personally hated them), even Watchmen, and Sin City, and 300). The bar has been raised, and Wolvy seems to be indicating that the comic film market is a little saturated.

his star trek books and generations sucked. the best thing to happen to kirk could be losing the shatner baggage. i think fans of tos might respect that.

the are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more people that are going to go to star trek for the nostalgia factor.

WELL WORTH THE HYPE

looks like Wolverine is gonna open around $80 million

You will have all the hardcore Trekkies, plus this one will have more casual fans and people who arent even into Star Trek going to see it. So I don't think Frank should be sweating yet.

(and comic/sci-fi) filled movie season.

its nuts.

wolverine, star trek, transformers II, harry potter.

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so far, and it has an appeal (at least from the trailers) that should do well with the general blockbuster movie crowd.


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didn't see that coming.

edit: i'd still say star trek has a good shot to beat it though. this thing looks like it's gonna get bad word-of-mouth after the first weekend. and everything i've heard about star trek has obviously been good.

But I think Star Trek is still gonna edge it out by summer's end. Please review this informative graphic I found online that projects what will likely happen at the box office:

http://tinyurl.com/dkxdxy

and there's a slew of credible critics who have already submitted their reviews on there. Granted that will drop, but I haven't hear a single remotely negative thing about Star Trek.

shit looks dumb awesome.

something about it says midnight shows propagate the whole weekend on some "DUDE>>>>!!!!!*(!(#* GO SEE IT!!"

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Majority of American males over the age of 26 have a "working knowledge" of Star Trek.

We know who Spock is...Kirk, Scotty, Bones, "Baby Sowff Thighs" Uhura...we know.

We seen "Wrath of Khan" growing up...we KNOW. Trek is pretty much an institution.

Prequels already hold a certain lore...a degree of curiosity.

Match that with Trek, and I think we have, as Longo says, a movie with some legs.

Uhura legs.

Will I be there drooling on opening night? No, but I'll be there...just so I can be a "fly on the wall" when Kirk and Spock meet.

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lol @ "in the 40's or something"

Iono about calling Gene Rodenberry a hack though

hence "in the 40's or something."

....that the new Trek film will have better legs than Wolverine. I am hoping that Wolverine shows a 60% drop this weekend. If it does, I'll feel pretty good, especially if Star Trek actually makes it to 75 mil.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/weekend-prediction-star-trek-65m/

Still ain't sayin' you're losing... but just admit... you're sweatin'. :)

EDIT: By the way, good news is Wolvie's Friday numbers dropped 76%

It's a good:
Action Movie
Sci-Fi Movie
Star Trek Movie

Not too many movies in the franchise can claim all 3. As someone said in another thread, this very well could be this year's Iron Man...

Take that money and run

i heard women coming out of the movie saying 'I LOVED IT' =

major major paper will get made throughout the weekend. and the numbers will hold up.

so i dunno

If they're looking for that, they're gonna want Wolverine. But if women are actually enjoying this, plus the good word of mouth from non-Trekkies, it's easily gonna beat Wolverine. I've heard one 'it was pretty good' about Wolverine so far, and everything else has been, 'it's disappointing' to 'it's pretty bad.'

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7 on thursday and 24 yesterday.

he said ST would make more, not more OPENING WEEKEND.

in the long run i think ST will EASILY make more because its the better movie. i haven't heard one good thing about Wolvie from any of my friends that saw it. Exact opposite of the new ST movie.

looking good Longo

Looks like it'll make 76 million in the opening weekend (adding in the 4 million from Thursday) but Wolverine just dropped a reported 68% so the bet is still looking good.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/weekend-prediction-star-trek-65m/

damn i wish you made that bet, lol

the bet was that Star Trek will beat Wolverine this weekend, or beat it for opening weekend gross? A bit confused.

you should have doubled up on him last monday after Wolverine had a big weekend.

Star Trek was the better film by leaps and bounds.

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Wolverine dropped 68%.

I feel GREAT.

Terminator might open bigger, MIGHT but I think it too will have a steeper drop-off, and less legs than ST

... I was telling him Trek would have the lower opening weekend and STILL gross more. He offered to double or nothing me on that, but I declined. I wasn't sure how much Trek REALLY would pull in.

But look at the weekend openings: Wolverine earned more than $85 million, while Star Trek only netted $75 million.

http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/12/box-office-battle-wolverine-vs-star-trek/

That bodes well

i'd just show him this weeks box office estimates and let him try and figure that out for himself.

oh, and if you'd like you can tell him how it did it on less screens.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/boxoffice/

wolverine is on more screens and only took in 14 million this

star trek is on less screens and took in 43 million this week


the wolverine movie is only ahead 4 million right now, but next week it will DEFINITELY be behind.....

and about $30M ahead of "wolverine."

i figure it won't last: "harry potter", "transformers", and "ice age 3" will probably out-gross it. but as a trekker, damn, it's AMAZING to see "star trek" do these kind of numbers!

I'm making no promises otherwise, lol. I've already made my hunnid.