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17099, Expound on!
Posted by Nettrice, Wed Dec-26-01 06:40 PM
>true nettrice. but actually, it was
>malcolm who taught ali the
>art of psychological warefare.

Agreed but none of this was clarified in the movie and people who don't read this and don't read up in books will miss this very significant connection. Also, Ali came from a "race" family and a family torn apart by distinctions of color (something many old African American families can relate to). The Clay surname comes from Henry Clay, a Kentucky slave owner and ancestor (also signed the Declaration of Independence). This is what Ali was defying when he left his birth name behind. Ali said that having the Clay name was nothing to be proud of and that is what hurt his family. Malcolm represented a lot of what the young Clay wanted to become and he guided Clay to Islam.

>mann isn't known for making deep
>films or tv shows.
>he prefers flash over substance.

That's the most disappointing thing about the new movie. It comes down to value and how people see our heroes and sheroes. Are they made-for-tv movies or real docu-dramas that reveal truth? Usually it's the former and we just don't have enough creative control over our "myths". Most people will not did deeper and take the new movie on face value.


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