no need to get huffy.
geez.

the other questions were to get a clear understanding of what repression is, in your opinion. b/c it seems fuzzy to me that's all, where is the line drawn between following what u might think is your conscience or following w/in social guidelines, or trying to be what u think is a moral person and being "repressed." i have been taught that we as humans can rise above our animal nature. does that mean that those who seek to do this are "repressed?"

as far as what u mean by "proper precautions" i have to ask, so i don't make assumptions, what are proper precautions to u, might be something different to someone else. i don't know if u r talking about conventional "proper precautions", literal physical precautions or emotional ones, i ask for clarity. that's all.


>>>
>>>Age isn't the issue (At least
>>>not in this case), in
>>>so much as people should
>>>have sex when they feel
>>>emotitionally ready to do so,
>>
>>what is emotionally ready? i'm sure
>>plenty of ppl use an
>>erection or butterflies in the
>>stomach as an indication of
>>readiness.
>
>...and plenty of people get married
>at a young age so
>they CAN have sex.
>
>What's the difference?
>
>What isn't emotionally ready?

>Is one "ready" because they went
>through a rite of passage
>and/or decided to get married?
>
>
>No.

well according to proponents of rites of passage they can't make it thru the rites unless they are ready, to be a productive man or woman in the society, this includes issues of sex.



>Emotionally ready means that you're prepared
>to deal with the psychological
>ramifications of engaging in sexual
>activities.

the thing is M2, i don't think that simply telling someone, particularly youth, "hey
make sure you're prepared
to deal with the psychological
ramifications of engaging in sexual
activities."

>It's hard to define, (Since we're
>talking about emotions here) but
>people more or less need
>to put outside stimuli aside
>and just make the decision
>for themselves.



>
>
>>>take the proper precautions
>>
>>
>>the proper precautions being what?
>
>
>You know, this discussion is getting
>on my nerves.....

i wouldn't want it to do that, don't answer anything u feel is not worthy of your time. i explained my reasoning above.

>If you want to ask stupid
>questions go ahead, but don't
>waste my time with it.
>
>
>You have heard of safe sex
>right?

well... according to the assumption u have made about me in the latter part of your response, u know what i think the "only safe sex" is...


>
>>>and
>>>are having sex with someone
>>>they feel they can entrust
>>>their safety to.
>>
>>i think most ppl who have
>>sex feel that they are
>>having it w/ someone they
>>can entrust their safety to.
>>i mean i dont think
>>even one night stands are
>>had w/ ppl we think
>>might kill us.
>
>No, people don't consider those things...otherwise
>they wouldn't have one night
>stands....
>
>Basically, people WANT to believe nothing
>is going to happen and
>they operate based on that.


i agree, so y depend upon what they consider as emotionally and psychologically ready to make these rational and intelligent decisions?

>>>That's should be the basic rule
>>>for anyone who has the
>>>emotionally and physical maturity to
>>>make the decision regarding whether
>>>or not they should have
>>>sex.
>>
>>what is the measure of emotional
>>and physical maturity?
>
>Physical is obvious....
>
>Emotional was discussed above......
>
>
>Look if you want to stay
>in the abstinence "my way
>is the only way camp"
>then fine...BUT if you want
>to really discuss this...please show
>up with more then silly
>arguments about infidelity, beastiality......and "precautions"
>& "maturity" are.....

u know i haven't made any arguments lately? i've simply questioned yours. these questions r for clarity. if u think they r silly, that's your opinion.


>Particularly since the latter is a
>factor in marriages as well......and
>won't really be affected by
>any so called "rites"
>
>
>
>Peace,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>M2


Shemhotep
************
"If u want a butterfly u got to B a
butterfly" - India.Arie, Butterfly

"the wages of sin is death"
Romans ch.6 v.23

"If the essence of 'love'... is giving
selflessly or sacrificing for others,
how can it then be equated with
something that you can 'fall into or
out of'?" - Ra Un Nefer Amen,
Afrocentric Guide to a Spiritual Union