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8159, RE: What is meant by
Posted by nighttripper, Thu Jul-11-02 02:54 AM
>dude, WHY is education subsidized in europe more than in it
>is in the US? it didn't just "happen." it's about what
>different places *value*. the US just doesn't value equity
>or education as much.
>

Well, I never really deny that. Notice that I didn't reply to your post #77. My point in that particular exchange with you was related to the only thing I've been defending here, ie that attitudes toward education and religion in European countries weren't exactly uniform. I can agree with you, though, overall education is more valued here.

>i disagree completely and VOCIFEROUSLY. what interesting
>american literature compare to what uninteresting european
>literature? not producing anything worthwhile since proust?
>primo levi, sartre and john banville, for three random
>examples.
>
>my life would be a barren desert if i didn't have access to
>English papers, poets, magazines, books etc. i don't read
>fiction much, but there is simply no question that there
>have been many more important and excellent British poets
>than American ones.
>

Relax. My statement was definitely too broad, because unlike you, I'm mostly interested in fiction. I haven't read Levi, nor Banville. I've read some of Sartre, though, and he is extremely overrated.

Just for fun, I decided to think of two random lists of American and French 20th century novelists (Proust is not 20th century to me):

Dos Passos
Faulkner
Norman Mailer
Dashiell Hamett
Chester Himes
Raymond Chandler
Ralph Ellison
James Ellroy
Jim Harrison
Jerome Charyn
Richard Ford
Saul Bellow
Philip Roth

vs

Aragon (who I like a little)
Mauriac
Camus (...)
Marguerite Duras (I'm having trouble keeping composure while writing this...)
Philippe Djian (mwahahaha...)

>this is a country where robert hass became poet laureate and
>i have rest my case.
>

hmmm, since when do we give a fuck about laureates?
it's like saying hip hop isn't worth shit because SisQo won a grammy in the category...