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>>>Also, please undulge me, where were John Winthrop and the
>>>Puritans from already?
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>>Holland, Germany, Switzerland & you're right.... mainly from England.
>
>That area (north of the alps, basically) has been known for
>being more or less (but mostly more) puritanistic ever since
>long before even the countries of europe were shaped.
>
>You said that english wasn't the birthplace of capitalism,
>but isn't puranism the culture that created capitalism? That
>makes England a part of it, along with Holland, Germany,
>Switzerland and so on..
>
>tell me if i'm wrong

Puritanism is just a branch of Calvinism. Capitalism wasn't invented by England. They improved that "concept", but invented it? hell no.