I agree that my first post was self-contradictory and incoherent. In my second one I think I was more able to clarify myself, though this is still a discussion and nothing that I say should be pinned on me...

Which reminds me: stop saying "y'all" please. You're breaking my snobbish paternalistic left-wing intellectual heart by implying that I am afraid of and mean to immigrants.

Borders *physical as well as social* are a big pain in my ass.