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7976, RE: whites vs europeans
Posted by Asoyini, Mon Jul-08-02 03:23 AM
>Yeah I suppose it sounds a little strange. But it counts for
>me and my friends, as well as my parents and their friends
>and as far as I know the rest of my family too. Regardless
>of what our ancestors may have done or invoked.
>And I do realize that not all Europeans are like us *they
>should be though*. However I think that what you call white
>supremacy, is actually xenophobia in Europe, which of course
>can be expressed in racist reasoning and acting. I say that
>because most agression here seems to be directed at
>newcomers/immigrants, who are not frowned upon for the color
>of their skin, but more for their culture, which, according
>to lots of (in my opinion silly) people is a threat to Dutch
>culture, whatever that may be. Immigrants who already have
>been here for a while, and adopted our manners, language and
>"culture", are taking less hate. At least that's what I
>think I see.
>
>Now don't think I agree with the point of view I described
>here, but I do think it's different from white supremacist
>thinking.

Funny but I see a problem with your statements. The newcomers/immigrants aren't accepted until they intergrate into the present society BUT according to you they still catch hate. It seems obvious to me why that would be. That line of thinking is no different than what goes on in the United States. The immigrants to this country are encouraged to intergrate... meaning to adapt to the ways of the "majority". However the fact remains that one has to devalue of downplay one's original culture and philosophies in order to be accepted and even then one is truly not embraced. I don't see the difference.


>I would hardly call it an improvement. The USA's so-called
>democracy is the subject of daily ridicule and disbelief
>here. And this morning I coincidentally read a nice article
>in the newspaper about the new abstinence program by the
>Bush government. I almost started crying for what the USA is
>doing to the world, by discouraging the use of condoms or
>the pill as means of safe sex. Does Bush want everybody in
>the world to die of AIDS?

When I said improvement I didn't mean it like I personally approve. Quite to the contrary. From my vantage point it just seems like the United States has taken the philosophies of many Europeans scholars and thinkers and has built upon their previous ideas to foster the American way of life. Whether Europe collectively agrees or not... the root of the United States is European.