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Posted by PaulNice, Fri Jul-19-02 03:13 PM
>If that is what you want to accept then we will also accept
>white as
>pure: unblemished, especially in character, purity;
>decency, decorum, delicacy; continence, chastity, honesty,
>virtue, modesty, vestal, virgin and black as the opposite.
>Those basic dictionary definitions are set up based on white
>supremacy so of course you will accept and believe that.
>They will alter everything to their advantage.

This is a common mistake made by many who know more of rhetoric than etymology. The reason "white" has that definition, and "black" has somewhat the opposite, has NOTHING TO DO with race. It is based on the fear of the dark that all races have had since the dawn of time. Man has always been afraid of the dark, and the light has always been a source of safety and comfort, for all races, and the languages of all humanity reflect this. Apart from that, could you please reference the dictionary you got this "definition" from? Methinks you got it from an autobiography, and not a dictionary. Must I really say which one? Interestingly enough, the definition I find for white is this:

white Pronunciation Key (hwt, wt)
The achromatic color of maximum lightness; the color of objects that reflect nearly all light of all visible wavelengths; the complement or antagonist of black, the other extreme of the neutral gray series. Although typically a response to maximum stimulation of the retina, the perception of white appears always to depend on contrast.
The white or nearly white part, as:
The albumen of an egg.
The white part of an eyeball.
A blank unprinted area, as of an advertisement.
One that is white or nearly white, as:
whites White trousers or a white outfit of a special nature: tennis whites.
whites The white dress uniform of the U.S. Navy or Coast Guard.
A white wine.
A white pigment.
A white breed, species, or variety of animal.
also White A member of a racial group of people having light skin coloration, especially one of European origin. See Usage Note at black.
Products of a white color, such as flour, salt, and sugar. Often used in the plural.
The white or light-colored pieces, as in chess.
The player using these pieces.

The outermost ring of an archery target.
A hit in this ring.
whites Pathology. Leukorrhea.
A politically ultraconservative or reactionary person.

adj. whit·er, whit·est
Being of the color white; devoid of hue, as new snow.
Approaching the color white, as:
Weakly colored; almost colorless; pale: white wine.
Pale gray; silvery and lustrous: white hair.
Bloodless; blanched.
Light or whitish in color or having light or whitish parts. Used with animal and plant names.
also White Of or belonging to a racial group having light skin coloration, especially one of European origin: voting patterns within the white population.
Not written or printed on; blank.
Unsullied; pure.
Habited in white: white nuns.
Accompanied by or mantled with snow: a white Christmas.

Incandescent: white flames.
Intensely heated; impassioned: white with fury.
Ultraconservative or reactionary.
With milk added. Used of tea or coffee.

tr.v. whit·ed, whit·ing, whites
Printing. To create or leave blank spaces in (printed or illustrated matter). Often used with out.
To whiten; whitewash.
To blanch.

Wow. The Dictionary definition doesn't really "validate" anyones existence, does it?

>The truth is, that first definition is no different from
>prej·u·dice noun (plural prej·u·dic·es)
>1. opinion formed beforehand: a preformed opinion, usually
>an unfavorable one, based on insufficient knowledge,
>irrational feelings, or inaccurate stereotypes
>2. the holding of ill-informed opinions: the holding of
>opinions that are formed beforehand on the basis of
>insufficient knowledge
>3. irrational dislike of somebody: an unfounded hatred,
>fear, or mistrust of a person or group, especially one of a
>particular religion, ethnicity, nationality, or social
>4. LAW disadvantage or harm: disadvantage or harm caused
>to somebody or something

Once again, you are in error. The definition of "racism" IS DIFFERENT from that of prejudice, because RACISM is based specifically on RACE.

>A powerless person can think with prejudice or what you call
>'racism', but he or she is not really racist without power.

Untrue. See the definition of "racism".

>Your problem: you are going to a racist source for your
>definition. You're not going to get the truth with that.

Wrong, the dictionary is not racist. Your problem: you are going to NO source for your definition - you're just making it up, like a fucking fairytale that excuses your racism.