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6474, well consider this then
Posted by osoclasi, Fri Nov-15-02 07:00 AM
>well, i think that someone was me. and this is what i said:

Response: yeah that was you. hey how it going?
>the last couple of years folks tried to tell me all sorts of
>stuff about islam, from violent religion to anti-christs.
>i've always been telling them that we all believe in the
>same god and we all want to go to the same place and our
>religions don't really differ that much if you look at the
>''core message'', i.e. love/respect each other etc.

Response: thats just it, the God of Christianity and the God of the Quran are not the same. Hey try this, find at three verses in the Quran that says that Allah loves mankind. You are going to be hard pressed, their are not many at all.
>BUT i don't know, i'm thinking!
>i haven't read enough in the quran to really join a debate
>on this. all i know is from my muslim friends and a few
>quotes from the quran.

Response: Well, don't take your friends words or my words look for yourself. Don't be afraid to ask the tough questions.
>>i still would like a muslim to comment on this.

Response: Me too. Its been two days now.
>sadly no one really followed your example and REALLY started
>to build.
>i always hear muslims say islam is about peace and love but
>nobody backed it off with Allah's or Mohammed's words.
>bashing any religion should be a no no here but at the same
>time what's the point in saying ''what do you want to tell
>me about my religion?'' or ''who are you to school me on
>if you know better, then please get the facts out there.

Response: Here is something else that I have been sitting on.

Hadith AL-Bukhari vol 4,124:

Allah's apostle said " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, " None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' and whoever says,'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' his life and property will be saved by me..."

Kind of hard to draw self defense from that.

or in the same hadith vol 9,45 says:

Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.
Now, thats something to think about.