my tone was by no means meant to be condescinding all i simply did was give evidence that im sure those who know & undertand will support my aforementioned statements although all ive seen from you thus far ...is your attacking & critizing of everything everyone is saying without giving any means of substantiating your stance... first explain to me why recognizing our own faults is a cop out.. (we are not everyone else).. and second explain to me how this does not directly deal with the issue at hand..