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5601, RE: iraq: reasons for or against, soliders, safety, etc
Posted by 1on1, Thu Mar-27-03 05:41 AM
>(This message is specifically for Aquaman:
>I was reading how you so adamantly hate President Bush and
>are so anti-war. My question to you and to everyone else is
>what other options are there about stopping a ruler that not
>only ordered an attack on his own people with chemical
>weapons, but also rejoiced publically after 9-11.)
(FIRST OF ALL YOUR A LIAR. THE GASSING OF THE KURDS WAS A
UPRISING CUT SHORT. SECOND... IMMEDIATELY AFTER HE DID SO,
WHO DONATED A 40 MILLION DOLLAR CHECK TO IRAQ? AMERICA...
WHO DONATED IT? DONALDS RUMSFELD. SECOND, YOUR LYING ABOUT
9/11... DONT MAKE SHIT UP TO GIVE YOURSELF LEVEERAGE HERE.
THIRD... IF YOUR JUST REITERATING HEARSAY NOW IS A GOOD TIME
TO LET YOU KNOW... HE, NOR THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ CELEBRATED
PUBLICLY. YOUR REFERENCING THE CNN VIDEO SHOWING PEOPLE
DANCING IN THE STREET... BUT GUESS WHAT... THAT VIDEO WAS
FROM 1993.)

>Alright, but even if they were rebelling against him does that justify him using a chemical weapon against them? Are they not still Iraqi people? Also, Saddam made a speech after 9-11 on Iraqi television basically calling Bin Laden a hero and I know you are smart enough to put two and two together. For him to take the time to do that showed that he had no remorse for the innocent civilians who had died. This was a "pat on the back" for the death of Americans. This is what I consider publically rejoicing. Also, I said nothing about people dancing in the streets. Let's stick to the script, I am strictly talking about Saddam.

>(Is it your opinion that this man could not very well be
>the next Hitler if not stopped?)
>BUSH? YUP.

>Strictly opinion. The fact that you can compare Bush to a man that ordered the slaughter of millions of Jews is disturbing.

>If you don't know your history, Hitler started off by
>capturing surrounding countries. If I do recall Saddam did
>the same in '91 when he invaded bordering Iran.)
(IF YOU KNOW YOUR HISTORY, THEN YOU'LL KNOW PRESCOTT BUSH
SR.. MADE MILLIONS OFF OF HITLER AND DIRECTLY INVESTED INTO
HIS GOV. AND HELPED HIM RISE TO PROMINANCE. SECOND, EXACTLY
HOW MANY COUNTRIES HAVE AMERICA INVADED? AND YOUR WORRIED
ABOUT IRAN... A PUPPET GOVERNMENT WITH THE SHAW THAT WE PUT
IN POWER????
C'MON. YOUR WAISTING MY TIME AND THE TIME OF FELLOW
OKAYPLAYERS.)

>You are leaving out the fact that Hitler ignored the treaties and orders made by the international community and they did nothing. By the time they realized he was a monster out of control his alliances had already bombed Pearl Harbor. Does this remind you of a certain Saddam who has basically ignored the UN for the past god knows how many years.

>(The Iraqi people themselves are rejoicing to be rid of
>Saddam.)
>SO NOW YOU HAVE BEEN TO IRAQ TO TALK TO THE IRAQI PEOPLE
>HUH?
>AGAIN, STOP LYING... SPEAK ONLY WHAT YOU KNOW FIRST HAND,
>NOTHING MORE.. AND WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING.)

>I can pretty much make that assumption when I see the people TEARING DOWN HIS PICTURES!!! You also left out the fact that these people have been forming resistance against his gov., unsuccessfully, for years.

>It really bothers me when people are demeaning the purpose
>of my sister fighting in Iraq. These soldiers are out there >defending our country from the threat of futher terrorist
>attacks.)
(I'M SORRY ABOUT YOUR SISTER... BUT ISN'T SHE THERE TO KILL
>PEOPLE???? SO I'M FEELING SORRY FOR WHAT AGAIN? )

>My sister is not there to kill people. She is not there to kill civilians. Her focus is on the opposing soldiers trying to kill her.

>( I think that Bush is doing what is best for the country.)
>I THINK YOUR A BRAINWASHED TWELVE YEAR OLD.

>Again, refer to message #44 of what I think of that.

> (It has nothing to do with oil or whatever else people are
>saying.)
>BUSH - FAMILY MAKES TRILLIONS IN OIL
>IRAQ - WORLD'S SECOND LARGEST OIL RESERVE. RIGHT. IF IRAQ
>HAD ALL THE HAMBURGERS IN THE WORLD AND LAVANE HAWKINS WAS
>PRESIDENT AND INVADED IRAQ... WOULDN'T PEOPLE JUST CALL IT
>FOR WHAT IT IS?

>Again, strictly your opinion, but you are intitled to that. Why don't you just call it what it is, your opinion.

>( For god sakes, had something been done about Bin Laden
>when he first bombed the world trade center when Clinton was
>in office that could have prevented 9-11!!!)
>YOUR A ASSHOLE. LADEN DID NOTHING. i THINK I'M WAISTING MY
>TIME TALKING TO THE DUMBEST @#$@# ON HERE.

>All I can reply to this comment is that this makes you look really immature. A man only curses when he doesn't know the words to say. And we all know Bin Laden was connected to 9-11.

>( That being said this war is for prevention of threats to
>our national security.)
>SAME THING HITLER SAID ABOUT THE JEWS... SO THEY CREATED
>CONCENTRATION CAMPS.

>Okay, who is putting Iraqi people in concentration camps? Again another bad analogy.

>( Sometimes when things happen you have to stand alone, and
>I'm glad that our president is taking a stand and doing
>something about a terrorist ruler.)
>SO YOU GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE KURDS HUH?
>ANSWER THIS.
>WHAT IS THEIR PROMINENT RELIGION?
>WHO IS THEIR LEADER?
>WHEN DID THEY COME TO POWER?
>WHAT COUNTRY ASSISTED THEM?
>WHAT IS THEIR PRIMARY RESOURCE?
>IF YOU KNOW NONE OF THESE ANSWERS... SHUT THE @#$@ UP WITH
>THE FAKE ASS RACIST TALK DISGUISED AS HUMANITARIAN EFFORTS.

>As far as the racist comment, refer to message #44. No I don't know the history of the Kurds, but one does not need to be a historian to state the obvious. One just has to open their eyes.

>( I also encourage everyone to wear or post a yellow ribbon
>in support of the "real heros" out there in Iraq. Oh yeah,
>about the whole war is of the devil, I don't understand
>that.)
>THAT'S CAUSE YOUR A DEVIL.

>Again, strictly your opinion. You can also refer back to message #44.

>( If that was the case then why did God help his people
>fight and win wars in the bible. The whole wall of Jericho
>and all of the other biblical wars, what about them. Well
>not to discredit or disrespect anyones religious beliefs but
>I've read and now I am speaking my mind. I'm tired of
>hearing people complaining about how wrong war is when they
>aren't offering any other solutions. True, if we lived in a
>perfect world we wouldn't need war, but we are nowhere near
>that. Let's be real. 1on1. I'm out. )
>SO WHAT SEPERATES YOU FROM THE TERRORISTS? THEY USE QUOTES
>FROM THE KORAN... YOU USE QUOTES FROM THE BIBLE... FOOL.

>Um, I do believe that what separates me from terrorists is that I don't use religion to justify killing INNOCENT people. The whole biblical reference was to say that war and freedom sometimes go hand-in-hand.

>THANKS FOR WAISTING MY TIME AND ANSWER MY QUESTIONS PLEASE.

Well as for "waisting your time" it was your choice to log onto the net so apparantly you weren't doing anything important anyway. That is all. 1on1. I'm out.