>morality, seems to me a type of practice involving religious
>ideals. does morality, allow for failure?

a perfect morality is not achievable, but forgiveness (God and man) is one of the fundamental elements of morality, so the circle is complete.

when does morality
>turn into, constant neglect of morality itself.

when people in power start believing their own bullshit.

morality is
>a graphic used to market various products..including law.

if law is a product, then what else besides morality should be used to "market" it?

to
>accept morality into your heart, you are conforming to a set
>of sanctioned ideals or set of codes to keep you proper.

that is against what I'm saying. i don't believe one "accepts" morality, but that we already have it and it's our responsibility to recognize it.

you
>are conforming...it is impossible to be super moral all the
>time..you are bound to fail and you do. how can we perceive
>a sense of morality that unifies us all when we can't stand
>up to our own set of codes.

this is where the notion of forgiveness becomes crucial.

so, there is constant chaos. or
>at least a distruvance in the wave. eventually it breaks,
>and you are left angry. is it possible, that our attempt at
>deifning our own set of codes clearly points to the fact
>taht maybe we should stop being moral. because, if others
>disagree, we are in instant debate, which is really a mental
>duel.

morality's ultimate enemy is power. chaos ensues when the two collide. see africa. see iraq.

it is seldom that we offer our view points without
>searching for some satisfaction in it. i suppose ppl can say
>we practice moral views when we debate. but, do we really?
>or do we just protect our own perception because we live
>with fear from time to time.

On point with this observation. I think a lot of times people debate things irrationally out of fear, for sure. This is one of the fundamental reasons for this posting, because I think there is a general morality that everyone believes they should uphold, but I don't think it is the result of a societal sparkplug. I really, truly believe we all know the difference between right actions and wrong actions. We are born with this discernment. Some very specific laws may vary culturally, but we know the damned difference. Peace,