>Sure, but blowing up the world is a complete abstraction. I
>and firmly believe that it doesn't matter if you blow up the
>world. Personally of course I'd be dissapointed. There are
>still things that I hope to accomplish in life that if you
>blew up the world I'd miss out on but heh, those are the
>breaks. If you'd like to have a more realistic discussion
>about morals I'm game.

In a philosophical/metaphysical debate, questions such as those are going to arise. Sorry if I alienated you.

However, thinking on those terms are what drives me to one conclusion: that morals cannot exist without God. We can create illlusions of morality, I guess, but I still wouldn't understand the foundation of the moral notion--when someone decided this was right and this was wrong. Even if morals were created, there is still no moral purpose, ultimately. As far as moral evolution, when has that happened? I mean, some stuff has varied, but nothing has REALLY changed. We still uphold virtually all the commandments (which are also upheld in virtually every religion and society).