>Who says I do or would? I could care less about religious
>leaders... Christianity is between the individual soul and
>God.
If you can't trust your leaders, how can your movement be trusted?
>
>And if your
>>leaders are untrustworthy, and don't live up to the moral
>>standards set forth by your religion, that kinda undermines
>>your whole claim that all morals are based on religion.
>
>Ok, first of all, no one lives up to a perfect morality, so
>that should immediately throw judgement out the window and
>give the responsibility to forgive those who sin against us.
>
>Second, when did I say that morals are based on religion? I
>believe morals are the innate sense of right and wrong, and
>that innate sense is God's Law.
when you call it God's Law, you are basing it on religion. Especially when you capitalize the G and the L like that, now you're basing it on one religion.

Now this right here:
>I have met many atheists,
>aborters, and homosexuals who probably live up to a standard
>of morals just as high, if not higher, than my own.
Is what I'm saying, in spades. So prove that morals come from God. 'Cause I say there are examples of relatively moral, civilized societies before the Bible, and before Christianity. I think all you've got to counter with is your faith.

My
>point was that we all have morals, and the morality we have
>serves an eternal purpose. Regardless, Judeo-Christian
>morals are outlined in the Bible, not in the Crusades. It
>is ignorant and wrong to think otherwise... every man has a
>different level or morality that he abides by.



>Committing an atrocity in the name of Buddhism isn't
>possible, because it isn't a religion, but a philosophy (if
>you want to argue this, I will be GLAD to).
One entry found for religion.


Main Entry: re·li·gion
Pronunciation: ri-'li-j&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English religioun, from Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back -- more at RELY
Date: 13th century
1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
- re·li·gion·less adjective
I'd say Buddhism falls under the 4th definition. If you don't think Buddhists have faith, you should take it up with them.
The closest
>thing to it that you can find is the religion that Buddhism
>is a derivitive of, Hinduism... plenty of examples here.
>