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3229, Oh the irony.
Posted by jackie chiles, Tue Nov-04-03 09:13 AM
>I never defend people. I defend the ideas and actions that
>are spotlighted.

And if those "ideas" and "actions" are foul? So be it eh?

http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/DCForumID1/16978.html

Defend that.

> If I feel the GOP/O'Reilly/AEI/Israel (I
>don't even know who they are) are right on an issue, I'll
>say so. If they are wrong, I'll say so too.

Riiight.

Everytime I see a thread that you've started, I know I can expect to see your written condemnation of right-wing actions.

LOL.

>But it's funny how leftists love to throw the "Uncle Tom"
>moniker around but never realize how it is the very white
>people they claim to despise

Who claimed to "despise" white people?

Leftists?

If you are going to make wack generalizations, at least try to make SOME sense.

> that are behind the propaganda
>and controls of the socialist movements/agendas around the
>world,

So European leftists own the ideas of social justice and cooperative societies? What color is the sky in your world?

No, of course not. They are behind "propaganda" which I am sure you will be happy to provide examples of, keeping in mind that the left "despises" whites, so they should reject out of hand any "propaganda" that is produced by whites.

(holds sides with laughter)

> most of them have their mindsets centered on European
>thought,

A false assertion. See above

>and Europeans are the ones who shore up the most
>opposition to U.S. policies, foreign or domestic.

What in the name of Clarence Thomas does this have to do with anything?

What does the fact that the American left and Europeans share their opposition to American imperialism prove?

Oh right, you must be talking about African-American leftists/progressives.

You are lucky I'm here to help you clarify your vague assertions.

Here is a clue:

1. The African-American left has looked outside itself for ideas and solutions to the problems facing blacks. The doctrinal bases in the struggles for emancipation and equality have come from unlikely and ironic sources such as the european socialist movement as well as the organizing documents of this nation, much of which written by slaveholders. That is nothing new.

2. The struggle for emancipation and equality has been multiracial for a very long time. In early times, White abolitionists, Calvinists, Shakers, Quakers and in later times, whites, blacks, jews all came together to contribute manpower, finances and yes, ideas to the struggle.

You act as though the black American left/progressive movement has been self-contained. Nothing is further from the truth.

You need to take a day off.

All of this Uncle Tomming has made you sloppier than usual.