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30893, RE: Hmmmmmm....
Posted by BarTek, Tue May-10-05 06:55 PM
>or atleast not dealing with it for which it actually exist.
>In Black history you have white experts for each period, and
>when a Black historian disagrees with a white historian he is
>deviating from what real history is. Like John Henrik Clarke
>says, a major part of white supremacy was the colonization of
>information about the world.

Okay, I learned something here.

>This is not simply about normative behavior. It's about when
>one group from a position of power tells another group what
>there issue is and isn't. For example, the good liberal
>Kennedy administration told Blacks that Freedom rides is not
>the way to go, if you continue we will continue letting those
>southern rednecks kill and lynch you. However, the right to
>vote is more important, and we will support you on that(if I
>can have the black vote) but only the good negros.

An American perspective/situation. This cannot apply to those outside of America.

>The issue is politics, white people (take it as a
>generalization if you want to) are of the opinion this is
>their country and they are just sharing it with others people,
>so while they are sharing they have the right to say what is
>and what aint, What Black person is acceptable and what aint.
>This permeates from the top to the bottom so much they are not
>even conscious of what they are doing I.E. BarTek.

I am the worst possible example of this. I'll explain why. I do not live in the United States. I was born in Poland, grew up in Africa, moved to Canada. I do not believe that Canada/America, or North America is mine to share with anyone. I have always believed, that it was being shared with me, considering that I wasn't even born in North America. I believe that Black Culture is being shared with me as well. What I am trying to do, is very different to what you are used to and can identify brokenchains. I am not the same type of white person you can identify in American society, simply because, I did not grow up in American society. Your definitions always fail to categorize me. It will be impossible for you to place an American definition on a foreigner, as that is a logical fallacy. Why don't you accept my word and use that to identify with me, because up to this point, it seems that you would rather define me in the american way, and disregard anything I say based on, "me not being conscious of what i am doing". You are judging me, and you are taking a point of authority to define me, and it is all incorrect. How ironic that we share the same frustration with eachother.

>This is as political as the Negro Question (White folks
>debating among themselves what to do with Blacks) thata been
>debated since the precursors of the civil war, to the

Speaking on behalf of myself. If you look around these boards, I am usually the only white person that is debating with a group of black folks. I don't see any white people besides me. I am not interested in debating with a group of white folks, because they can't teach me anything. You have all taught me everything I know, and everything I use to base my opinion and theories on. I am a product of the mentality you have taught me. That is the absolute truth. The reason why it seems that I deviate is, because I will not accept that I was born evil, and because, I will not accept your definition.

>There is no Cracka Question. You have Blacks still trying to
>solve the Negro Question.

Word, and you have folks trying to solve the Human question too.


he stood there,
eyes locked on her,
stare irreversible.
her hands over mouth,
she laughs. he smells
her soul,
tames his thoughts,
and hides the want.
- the perfect mistake