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29247, How do we get our vote back? b/w Chicago Tribune Article (4/14)
Posted by Fiver, Wed Apr-13-05 03:29 PM
Where is the outrage? Why aren't the key questions being answered?

The discrepancy in exit polling should've been enough for some kind of investigation, yet it doesn't seem like too many people care. So is this the end of voting in America? What can we (simple folk) do to get shit somewhat straight again?

The shit chalked up to conspiracy theory is being printed in respectable newspapers now. Check this out from tomorrow's Chicago Tribune:

*For release 4/14/05*


*By Robert C. Koehler*

/Tribune Media Services/

As they slowly hack democracy to death, we're as alone - we citizens - as we've ever been, protected only by the dust-covered cliches of the nation's founding: "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."

It's time to blow off the dust and start paying the price.

The media are not on our side. The politicians are not on our side. It's just us, connecting the dots, fitting the fragments together, crunching the numbers, wanting to know why there were so many irregularities in the last election and why these glitches and dirty tricks and wacko numbers had not just an anti-Kerry but a racist tinge. This is not about partisan politics. It's more like: "Oh no, this can't be true."

I just got back from what was officially called the National Election Reform Conference, in Nashville, Tenn., an extraordinary pulling together of disparate voting-rights activists - 30 states were represented, 15 red and 15 blue - sponsored by a Nashville group called Gathering To Save Our Democracy. It had the feel of 1775: citizen patriots taking matters into their own hands to reclaim the republic. This was the level of its urgency.

Was the election of 2004 stolen? Thus is the question framed by those who don't want to know the answer. Anyone who says yes is immediately a conspiracy nut, and the listener's eyeballs roll. So let's not ask that question.

Let's simply ask why the lines were so long and the voting machines so few in Columbus and Cleveland and inner-city and college precincts across the country, especially in the swing states, causing an estimated one-third of the voters in these precincts to drop out of line without casting a ballot; why so many otherwise Democratic ballots, thousands and thousands in Ohio alone, but by no means only in Ohio, recorded no vote for president (as though people with no opinion on the presidential race waited in line for three or six or eight hours out of a fervor to have their say in the race for county commissioner); and why virtually every voter complaint about electronic voting machine malfunction indicated an unauthorized vote switch from Kerry to Bush.

This, mind you, is just for starters. We might also ask why so many Ph.D.-level mathematicians and computer programmers and other numbers-savvy scientists are saying that the numbers don't make sense (see, for instance, www.northnet.org/minstrel, the Web site of Dr. Richard Hayes Phillips, lead statistician in the Moss vs. Bush lawsuit challenging the Ohio election results). Indeed, the movement to investigate the 2004 election is led by such people, because the numbers are screaming at them that something is wrong.

And we might, no, we must, ask - with more seriousness than the media have asked - about those exit polls, which in years past were extraordinarily accurate but last November went haywire, predicting Kerry by roughly the margin by which he ultimately lost to Bush. This swing is out of the realm of random chance, forcing chagrined pollsters to hypothesize a "shy Republican" factor as the explanation; and the media have bought this evidence-free absurdity because it spares them the need to think about the F-word: fraud.

And the numbers are still haywire. A few days ago, Terry Neal wrote in the Washington Post about Bush's inexplicably low approval rating in the latest Gallup poll, 45 percent, vs. a 49 percent disapproval rating. This is, by a huge margin, the worst rating at this point in a president's second term ever recorded by Gallup, dating back to Truman.

"What's wrong with this picture?" asks exit polling expert Jonathan Simon, who pointed these latest numbers out to me. Bush mustered low approval ratings immediately before the election, surged on Election Day, then saw his ratings plunge immediately afterward. Yet Big Media has no curiosity about this anomaly.

Simon, who spoke at the Nashville conference - one of dozens of speakers to give highly detailed testimony on evidence of fraud and dirty tricks from sea to shining sea - said, "When the autopsy of our democracy is performed, it is my belief that media silence will be given as the primary cause of death."

In contrast to the deathly silence of the media is the silent scream of the numbers. The more you ponder these numbers, and all the accompanying data, the louder that scream grows. Did the people's choice get thwarted? Were thousands disenfranchised by chaos in the precincts, spurious challenges and uncounted provisional ballots? Were millions disenfranchised by electronic voting fraud on insecure, easily hacked computers? And who is authorized to act if this is so? Who is authorized to care?

No one, apparently, except average Americans, who want to be able to trust the voting process again, and who want their country back.

/- - -/

/Robert Koehler, an award-winning, Chicago-based journalist, is an editor at Tribune Media Services and nationally syndicated writer. You can respond to this column at _bkoehler@tribune.com_ or visit his Web site at commonwonders.com./

* 2005 Tribune Media Services, Inc.*
29248, It's simple really...
Posted by FireBrand, Wed Apr-13-05 03:43 PM
The election was stolen AGAIN. I lived in suburban Roswell for YEARS here in the Metro Area of Atlanta (http://roswell.georgia.gov). I've never ever had to wait in line to vote. No matter what the weather was voting took no more than 5 to 10 minutes. After all, aren't most of us going into work a few minutes late or using our lunchbreaks to vote?

This past election I had the day OFF. I know live in the West End of Atlanta, a hub of Africeture and Black Slate politics.

I was line for almost 2 and a half hours.

Some people left, but for the most part you heard folk talking about voting the black slate- you saw the election protection folk out (http://www.northernarc.net/articles/news_headlines/11.03.2004/narc1%20002(small).jpg)

But what was going on amongst the good spirits was str8 sabotage.

I don't get how it's a question that the vote was stolen, and that we don't have to be VERY vigilent about information security and information brokerage.

It's big business, and today where we are much like in the Matrix movies little more than batteries to the great economics machine vigilence and appropriate action is the only way to not die just another number.


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29249, good question...
Posted by ecnirp1, Wed Apr-13-05 06:13 PM
the congressional democrats really don't seem to care about this for one reason or another which almost makes you wonder, are they in it together?

the fact that they did nothing to fix these problems after that rape in 2000 almost makes me not wanna bother anymore.

29250, RE: How do we get our vote back? b/w Chicago Tribune Article (4/14)
Posted by Bdiddy04, Thu Apr-14-05 02:17 PM
29251, well, how DO we get it back? grassroots media?
Posted by FireBrand, Thu Apr-14-05 02:21 PM

"I liked it," Gilliam said of playing gunner on punt team. "It was the first time I did anything like that. It was fun. It felt like, if he wasn't fair catching it, he was disrespecting me, so I was trying to take a head off if I could." Response-ability
29252, RE: well, how DO we get it back? grassroots media?
Posted by Bdiddy04, Thu Apr-14-05 02:26 PM
I agree with the grassroots media. The bloggers are starting to do it now, but I have a problem with them not having editors. They are able to post any story and if it catches steam everyone considers it true. But if the blogs become more sophisticated, I think they help in getting it back.