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28952, Cynthia McKinney Grills Rumsfeld. *editted title*
Posted by 3X, Sun Mar-27-05 10:17 PM
MUST SEE! Black Woman Asks REAL Questions


this shit won't make the news. sit back and watch bush fraud's stooges deal with REAL questions. No softball questions from a DOWN LOW "conservative" like "Jeff Gannon." Cynthia McKinney needs some 24/7 security. post your comments after viewing clip.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/240305mckinneygrills.htm

Contact:

http://www.house.gov/mckinney/

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Stay tuned for my full featured Web site in the first session of the 109th Congress.

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You can reach me through either of my congressional offices:

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Phone: 202-225-1605
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28953, UP!!!^^^^^^
Posted by brokenchains79, Fri Mar-25-05 03:42 PM

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"If I see
28954, did you watch the clip? if so what were your thoughts
Posted by 3X, Fri Mar-25-05 04:12 PM
it was amazing watching EXPERTISE'S heroes struggle answering REAL questions..too bad not a single BLACK MAN in washington d.c. has the guts to ask REAL questions
28955, Yeah I watched it.
Posted by brokenchains79, Fri Mar-25-05 04:36 PM
I thought she made them look stupid as hell. She knew what was going to happen by the way she stopped them everytime they started talking that B.S. and made them address her questions. This is exactly why I dont have anything faith in the gov't or media whatsoever because trillions of dollars are missing and you have the same cats debating Affirmative Action. What was the date of the hearing, I'd be curious to see how she has been treated since then.


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"If I see
28956, I can't watch it at work. Can't wait to see it when I get home
Posted by FireBrand, Fri Mar-25-05 04:32 PM

I respect that lady so much. They did an article in yesterday's paper about another young "Firebrand" (their words, not mine) coming up in the Georgia House. She's in the mold of a McKinney from Austell.

Seeing sistas step it up AGAIN like this warms my heart.

again, I can't wait to see this.

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28957, You need to anchor this link
Posted by 3X, Fri Mar-25-05 05:21 PM
everyone needs to witness the exchange of words on this video clip
28958, I might once I see it. I can't even watch some avis on this
Posted by FireBrand, Fri Mar-25-05 05:27 PM
connection. They are closing our branch so we don't have a t1 anymore. It's mad slow.

It'll have to wait till I get home around 8:30pm.


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28959, this woman is a true hero!!!
Posted by zewari, Fri Mar-25-05 04:43 PM
God bless her soul.


«SiG»
“Stand out firmly for Justice as witness before God, even against yourselves, against your kin and against your parents, against people who are rich or poor. Do not follow your inclinations or desires lest you deviate from Justice."
-Qur’an 4:135
28960, Bless her soul and somebody watch her back
Posted by brokenchains79, Fri Mar-25-05 04:48 PM

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talk dumb shit about white
women that simply is not true"
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"If I see
28961, Yeah they been fuckin with her (swipe)
Posted by brokenchains79, Fri Mar-25-05 04:51 PM
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=229&row=1

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talk dumb shit about white
women that simply is not true"
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"If I see
28962, sad that ppl talkin' about "no black leaders today" don't know...
Posted by zewari, Fri Mar-25-05 05:30 PM
... of ppl like Cynthia McKinney

and its not that i even advocate the notion of having a "savior" leader. no centralized social movement will ever amount to squat... but names like Cynthia McKinney should not be foreign in african-american political discourse. shit, in political discourse PERIOD, to be honest.

ya'll also check out her report i posted in the "forgotten war" thread

«SiG»
“Stand out firmly for Justice as witness before God, even against yourselves, against your kin and against your parents, against people who are rich or poor. Do not follow your inclinations or desires lest you deviate from Justice."
-Qur’an 4:135
28963, That's what I'm saying. She and others like her
Posted by FireBrand, Fri Mar-25-05 05:35 PM
on the state and local levels are on the front lines just giving their all. and folk wanna talk about leadership.

use what ya got.



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28964, TRANSCRIPT.
Posted by zewari, Fri Mar-25-05 05:58 PM
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/030105_mckinney_question.shtml


«SiG»
“Stand out firmly for Justice as witness before God, even against yourselves, against your kin and against your parents, against people who are rich or poor. Do not follow your inclinations or desires lest you deviate from Justice."
-Qur’an 4:135
28965, THANK YOU. I was SKRUGGLIN.
Posted by FireBrand, Fri Mar-25-05 06:16 PM

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28966, EDUTAINMENT::: "YA STRUGGLIN!!!!!!!" (C ) BDP (JIVE, 1990)
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Mon Mar-28-05 12:28 AM
Look it up yourself...

All I got to say is the song "BEEF" shows that on that track, KRS is COMPLETELY and totally full of shit.

That's just him being' paranoid.

My favorite track is the pseudo-Soul II Soul track.

"The Place where they bury the lies"




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Chris Defendorf: "We're not done!" (sampling KRS-ONE & PUBLIC ENEMY "HIT THE ROAD JACKKK"

Chuck D: "I KNOW we're not done..."

PE REDUCER Hank Shocklee on the words defendorf uses: "inciteful" (C) HS
28967, I love her
Posted by afrogirl, Fri Mar-25-05 08:04 PM
She has been one of the few people to challenge this bullshit government.
28968, I love her too
Posted by zewari, Fri Mar-25-05 08:29 PM
yo we should all write an email/letter of support to her


«SiG»
“Stand out firmly for Justice as witness before God, even against yourselves, against your kin and against your parents, against people who are rich or poor. Do not follow your inclinations or desires lest you deviate from Justice."
-Qur’an 4:135
28969, I'm wit it... post the address.
Posted by brokenchains79, Fri Mar-25-05 08:55 PM

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"If I see
28970, here it is:
Posted by zewari, Fri Mar-25-05 09:07 PM
http://www.house.gov/mckinney/

This Web page has been set up to provide my constituents with an immediate Internet address for my newly elected office.

Stay tuned for my full featured Web site in the first session of the 109th Congress.

In the meantime, I hope you will contact my office if you have any questions or would like assistance with a Federal Agency.

You can reach me through either of my congressional offices:

Washington D.C. Address
320 Cannon House Office Building
Washington DC, 20515

Phone: 202-225-1605
Fax : 202-226-0691


4th District Address
North DeKalb Mall
2050 Lawrenceville Highway, Suite D-46
Decatur, Georgia 30033

Phone: 404-633-0927
Fax : 404-633-0968

Buford Highway Satellite Address
3523 Buford Highway NE
Suite 201
Atlanta, Georgia 30329

Phone: 404-320-2001
Fax : 404-320-3496

«SiG»
“Stand out firmly for Justice as witness before God, even against yourselves, against your kin and against your parents, against people who are rich or poor. Do not follow your inclinations or desires lest you deviate from Justice."
-Qur’an 4:135
28971, I used to Love her. [grin] [smile]
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Mon Mar-28-05 12:29 AM
g=grin
s=smile
vbg=very big grin
lol= laughing out loud




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Chris Defendorf: "We're not done!" (sampling KRS-ONE & PUBLIC ENEMY "HIT THE ROAD JACKKK"

Chuck D: "I KNOW we're not done..."

PE REDUCER Hank Shocklee on the words defendorf uses: "inciteful" (C) HS
28972, Government is God. It's okay to challenge God.
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Mon Mar-28-05 12:33 AM
or as I say "GOD/GODDESS/ALLTHAT IS"

Cause I dont mean God like the old WHite man from the Bible, i mean in the sense that
God is Incomplete Without YOU.

If the Government don't include you, then you're talking about needing to take back your power from it, Peacefully, like cold fusion.

NOT Cold Chillin'
CURRENT ROTATION: DJ LORD THE TURNTABLIST CHRONICLES
from Netflix
Mental Rotation:
Michael Jackson's Thriller Laugh", at minus 2400 speed, infinite loop soundworld. Sounds like Britney Spears in a Trash Can.

She's not PUSSY!
she is a WUSSY , though!
Wussy= WIMP AND PUSSY

lol

also, and so

for the Best of Cold Chillin' Records, you NEED to listen to Pete Rock & CL Smooth's "The Main Ingredient" project.

OOOOP! OOOOP!

you feel me? I smell me, do you feel me?


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Chris Defendorf: "We're not done!" (sampling KRS-ONE & PUBLIC ENEMY "HIT THE ROAD JACKKK"

Chuck D: "I KNOW we're not done..."

PE REDUCER Hank Shocklee on the words defendorf uses: "inciteful" (C) HS
28973, Official Black WOman/Women Question #1
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Fri Mar-25-05 08:41 PM
Black Women 'been asking REAL questions for a VERY VERY Long time.

I don't know where you've been, but you better tell Flavor Flav that you want your clock back, in that sensing, raspberry.

What's important is how important the question is, how beautiful the question is...

And the most beautiful and important question you CAN ask is
"Why?"

Black Women be asking that Question.

Where are the White Women who ask the same? Where are the men who will hold Sleeping Men back and put them in jail when they attack Women?

Women are the Majority (51%)
Everyone who doesn't have a vagina is a minority, in that sensing.

Can we build?

If not, "Why"?
(C) The Eternal Woman of Darkness, the Wise Old Woman Energy, "DBD" the CRONE

Theme music for the revolution of the mind in cyberspace or my space:

"Black Woman" by the Jungle Brothers
"Mothers are beautiful."-
(C) of the Copyright Holder/Holders/holders/Raspberries, nah mean?

Laugh, beatch!
dba means...
dbd menas


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"you fuckers brought chrisdefendorf out of crakctavist. thanksafuckinlot"
-okp rjcc

*chrisdefendorf joins janus on s.i.'s list of 'okps to ignore'

he aint racist. He's far from that- from what I've seen. IMO.
28974, you're doing it again, man.
Posted by zewari, Fri Mar-25-05 09:05 PM
the ambiguity.

my head... is hurting. fuck

«SiG»
“Stand out firmly for Justice as witness before God, even against yourselves, against your kin and against your parents, against people who are rich or poor. Do not follow your inclinations or desires lest you deviate from Justice."
-Qur’an 4:135
28975, people who have difficulty with ambiguity
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Fri Mar-25-05 09:52 PM
have difficulty learning. When we started University Without Walls it was partially based oon that observation.

Head's hurting, : go see a doctor. When ever i ahve a problem i go right to the doctor.

Be there for yourself.



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"you fuckers brought chrisdefendorf out of crakctavist. thanksafuckinlot"
-okp rjcc

*chrisdefendorf joins janus on s.i.'s list of 'okps to ignore'

he aint racist. He's far from that- from what I've seen. IMO.
28976, on the real...
Posted by zewari, Sat Mar-26-05 04:05 AM
... i think i'm burnt out.

28977, dog it's a combination of doctrine, typos, and ill punctuation.
Posted by FireBrand, Sat Mar-26-05 09:48 AM
Sometimes it seems like you and another veracious poster went to the same middleschool.


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28978, what about raw, cold, data. Thre's a method to my madness,
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Sat Mar-26-05 10:15 AM
and I was making a point.

Don't you think that stating that ANYTHING more than 50% is a majority?

Where's the doctrine, etc or even veracious poetic license in that?
There is none, stealthy White Racists be damned!!! In many senses...

I ALWAYS build. and I'm planning on a HUGE shift coming in, where you'll be like: "He's a completely different person". So I'm just planting seeds.

I ALWAYS LEAVE one thing out, whenever I talk to anybody about ANYHING.

Your ego insists that you be confused by me. Get unconfused, and then let's dig apart HOW you were confused. But don't expect me to change my past just cause my reality has a problem with what I said. Unless it's appropriate to do so.

By the way, if the majority of okayactivists have a problem with me, that means I'm a minority, right? Because I have less and less problems with myself , and if there's at least two people who have a problem with me, then I'm in the minority, right? I'm not within the MAJORITY group within that set. So if YOU recognize me (note it's you who must do the recognizing) as having a minority opinion .. treat me as minorities would like to be treated. not how YOU would like inorities to be treated, but how THEY want to be treated.

So listen I called in Well to work today. I called the so-called "Boss" and I said that I was feeling wonderful, so I'm not coing in. so as far as okayplayer.com :
I'm not takin' back SHIT!!!

So listen, here's the cold hard facts that you missed because of whatever reason. What follows this definition will be me quoting two jokes to say "DON"T GIVE IT ALL TO YOUR GOTDAMN FUCKIN' NEGATIVE EGOS!!!!!!!"

Main Entry: ma·jor·i·ty
Pronunciation: m&-'jor-&-tE, -'jär-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
1 obsolete : the quality or state of being greater
2 a : the age at which full civil rights are accorded b : the status of one who has attained this age
3 a : a number greater than half of a total b : the excess of a majority over the remainder of the total : MARGIN c : the preponderant quantity or share
4 : the group or political party whose votes preponderate
5 : the military office, rank, or commission of a major
- majority adjective

JOKES SECTION (cue "Tonight Show" theme music)

"YOU call Black People lazy? Bitch, we TIRED!!!!! 400 years of free labor and we can't be tired???"- Robin harris, I think

"Well I may have been born yesterday, but I was up all last night, God Dammit!"- paul Mooney.

"CHEAT".


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"you fuckers brought chrisdefendorf out of crakctavist. thanksafuckinlot"
-okp rjcc

*chrisdefendorf joins janus on s.i.'s list of 'okps to ignore'

he aint racist. He's far from that- from what I've seen. IMO.
28979, I haven't read anything you posted in this thread.
Posted by FireBrand, Sat Mar-26-05 10:29 AM
to be honest. I'm not trying to clown, I've just been watching the games, and I didn't read any threads in detail last night.


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28980, ill pncutiation? Taht is NOT a tpyo!!!! !@#$%^&*(
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Mon Mar-28-05 12:40 AM
" YOU"RE ILL> I LOVE IT (WHEN) YOUR MIND MOVES AROUND AT WILL"
De La SOul, from "Stakes is High" , a man talking to a woman as they proceed to bone.

PROPS:
SKELETON MAN, by TOM WADSWORTH
cdbaby.com


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Chris Defendorf: "We're not done!" (sampling KRS-ONE & PUBLIC ENEMY "HIT THE ROAD JACKKK"

Chuck D: "I KNOW we're not done..."

PE REDUCER Hank Shocklee on the words defendorf uses: "inciteful" (C) HS
28981, wow.. respect, respect! more power. n/m
Posted by NkiRu, Sat Mar-26-05 11:30 AM
28982, MCKINNEY'S Message: you got to Respect your self first, and
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Mon Mar-28-05 12:44 AM
see yourself as WORTHY. before you see anybody else.

SELF WORTH/SELF RESPECT
Incredible tape from Lazaris.com

Also, her message is that each one of us have the sme power, and if you get out of your own way, the LAST type of power "you" want is "power over somebody else".

"That's the kind of power that's 'lonely at the top' " (Lazaris)


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Chris Defendorf: "We're not done!" (sampling KRS-ONE & PUBLIC ENEMY "HIT THE ROAD JACKKK"

Chuck D: "I KNOW we're not done..."

PE REDUCER Hank Shocklee on the words defendorf uses: "inciteful" (C) HS
28983, AND? (second Official Black Woman/Women Question
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Sat Mar-26-05 09:02 PM
"AND" is the ADULT word, the ADULT word.

"either" and "or" are the adolescent/Warrior words.
and Black Women be asking this again if you don't answer "WHY?"



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"you fuckers brought chrisdefendorf out of crakctavist. thanksafuckinlot"
-okp rjcc

*chrisdefendorf joins janus on s.i.'s list of 'okps to ignore'

he aint racist. He's far from that- from what I've seen. IMO.
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Posted by chrisdefendorf, Sat Mar-26-05 11:11 PM
No message
28985, Whoa
Posted by LegacyNS, Sun Mar-27-05 10:21 AM
She definitely asked some penetrating questions.. People need to see this clip.

“lyrics unravel, faster than bullets travel thru barrels...
ngaz be diggin my style like fossils of pterodactyls...” © Canibus

"limited edition, composition spark friction...
non-fiction, the calm bomb, keep ya arm distance..." © Rebel I
28986, "THAT'S GREAT!", unfortunately not Greta! Wake her ass up, GOD!!!!
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Mon Mar-28-05 12:47 AM

http://profiles.myspace.com/users/10450673

Chris Defendorf: "We're not done!" (sampling KRS-ONE & PUBLIC ENEMY "HIT THE ROAD JACKKK"

Chuck D: "I KNOW we're not done..."

PE REDUCER Hank Shocklee on the words defendorf uses: "inciteful" (C) HS
28987, My bad I ain't even see this...I just woke up
Posted by Lord_Vingtune, Sun Mar-27-05 12:25 PM

<---bleek's forehead lost


"Stop putting hats on my penis" (c)theMantheMyth warning PlanetInfinite
28988, you good. lol. whe went off didn't she?
Posted by FireBrand, Sun Mar-27-05 12:32 PM

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28989, new word (C) FireBrand: ______"Whe" __________I LOVE it! @&AND&@
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Mon Mar-28-05 12:52 AM
It means, in my perception & conception...

"Whe"
etymology: Cyberspace, okayplayer FireBrand
NOUN.
1) A group of Women who are being Spiritual Adults. In other words, they're not going to fuckin' allow men to beat up Women like the MANY MANY Adolescent Warrior Women of this Planet Earth in the year 2005.
1B) and they're not going to allow WOMEN to ALLOW Men to beat up ANY WOMEN...!
"BITCH!?!?!?!!!!!!"


As used in "Have you forgotten that when we were brought here "Whe" were robbed of our name, robbed of our language, "Whe" lost our religion, our Culture, our God, and many of us, by the way we act, ( (we/Whe/WE/the ROyal WE/The 'Royal Whe')) even lost our mind" -

"NIGHT OF THE LIVING BASEHEADS", PUBLIC ENEMY, IT TAKES A NATION OF MILLIONS TO HOLD US BACK< (DEF JAM RECORDS, 1988) Sample: the late Dr. Khalid Abdul Muhammed (Transcription (unofficial) by Chris Defendorf (C) "Raspberry", 2005



Synonyms: Hero, She-ro (Chuck D)
Antonyms: Error 404, Sorry Player!!! We're not interested in talking about people who are victims of their reality!!!

courtesy the Mind/Resonance/Resonances of Chris Defendorf, cited 3/28/05.
28990, why in the world is this anchored?
Posted by Expertise, Sun Mar-27-05 02:44 PM
I don't see why hollow and biased accounts of what really happened are allowed to be anchored.
__________________________
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28991, u mad?
Posted by zewari, Sun Mar-27-05 03:19 PM

«SiG»
“Stand out firmly for Justice as witness before God, even against yourselves, against your kin and against your parents, against people who are rich or poor. Do not follow your inclinations or desires lest you deviate from Justice."
-Qur’an 4:135
28992, The NEGRO CON Speaks
Posted by 3X, Sun Mar-27-05 04:10 PM
It was anchored because this post allows people to witness a rare moment in politics. How often do the people get to see REAL questions asked to politicals and government stooges? Oh....I forgot...we witnessed REAL questions being asked during those RIGGED presidential debates.

You're just in denial because in your simple mind BUSH and COMPANY are HOLY. There was nothing biased in regards to asking questions about the 9-11 wargame drills that yourself, mcdeezjawns and others ridiculed as being some urban legend. It looked like Richard Myers acknowledged those 9-11 drills being a reality. Only NEGROES in denial can't connect the dots.

I GUESS YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN SATISFIED WITH A HOMOSEXUAL FAKE JOURNALIST/"CONSERVATIVE" ON THE REPUBLICAN PAYOLA THROWING OUT SOFTBALL QUESTIONS.
28993, Because it is unbiased news on factual evidence against
Posted by FireBrand, Sun Mar-27-05 04:15 PM
an administration that fail(ed/s) to protect us adequatley. These are questions being asked that everyyone needs to be aware of. It isn't biased, it's the exchange in it's entirity.

I'm not a liberal, and I've made my disgust with both liberals and conservatives well known.

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28994, clarify this for me.
Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 04:44 PM
>an administration that fail(ed/s) to protect us adequatley.

- 1) since when have the "america is corrupt/babylon/racist/evil" crowd been concerned about the well being of its citizens? it always amazes me that in times of peace, there is nothing but resentment, anger, animosity and hatred towards the system and its citizens, but when something like this happens all of a sudden they become mr rodgers? that doesnt add up to me.

- 2) what could the govt have done to prevent 2 airplanes flying in2 the WTC?
28995, dogg
Posted by zewari, Sun Mar-27-05 06:17 PM
probably the dumbest shit i've seen you write to date.

>- 1) since when have the "america is
>corrupt/babylon/racist/evil" crowd been concerned about the
>well being of its citizens? it always amazes me that in times
>of peace, there is nothing but resentment, anger, animosity
>and hatred towards the system and its citizens, but when
>something like this happens all of a sudden they become mr
>rodgers? that doesnt add up to me.

you got issues. do u realize how DUMB of a remark that shit was or do you need someone to point it out to you?

>- 2) what could the govt have done to prevent 2 airplanes
>flying in2 the WTC?

there's something called Norad you need to read up on.

«SiG»
“Stand out firmly for Justice as witness before God, even against yourselves, against your kin and against your parents, against people who are rich or poor. Do not follow your inclinations or desires lest you deviate from Justice."
-Qur’an 4:135
28996, a hit dog will holler.
Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 07:51 PM
>you got issues mothafucka. do u realize how DUMB of a remark
>that shit was or do you need someone to point it out to you?

- not feeling guilty are you? if not you should...you know good and damn well you are the #1 mofoe on here who does nothing but shit on america, shit on the government, dont have shit good to say about anybody or anything unless they are anti-establishment and anti american. now all of a sudden you and your cronies on here want to pretend you give a damn if 3,000 americans died on 9-11? that at the end of your hate-speech and rhetoric that deep down you genuinely care about the well being of the american people regardless of race, sex, religion, nationality. go sell your shit to somebody else "mothafucka".


but you ARE the same cat who said they dont think bush/hitler is the same person but has an avitar that has them morphing into one another...riiiiiight.
28997, Deleted message
Posted by zewari, Sun Mar-27-05 08:08 PM
No message
28998, *sigh*
Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 08:18 PM
here is a challenge: name me ONE positive thing you've said about the united states, the government, the way our country is run, the system, or its citizens since you've been on okayplayer. you haven't. the only "good" things you see about america are its rebellious pockets. people and organizations that go against the govt and the american establishment. people who stand out and rebel against the president (like the creator of your silly avitar which reeinforces the mentallity that HELPED kerry win the presidential election in 2004 *snicker*) and the powers that be.

care to prove me wrong?

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Posted by zewari, Sun Mar-27-05 08:24 PM
No message
29000, translation: "i got my card pulled"...
Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 08:26 PM
29001, dogg... get a second opinion for real
Posted by zewari, Sun Mar-27-05 09:05 PM
first off, you can't go around talking shit about ppl without substantiating yourself and expect anyone to take you seriously.

second, your tirades are consistently OFF-TOPIC. instead of dealing w/ the real issues, you specialize in digressing discussion into irrelevent bullshit.

you ain't serious about shit, clown. take a survey and see if anyone even thinks you're halfway close to being REMOTELY rational.

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29002, again, if u cant answer then admit it.
Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 09:39 PM
>first off, you can't go around talking shit about ppl without
>substantiating yourself and expect anyone to take you
>seriously.

- there is a difference in talking shit and bringing up points. now, can you DENY what i've said about you? nope. this is why you keep going back to your petty childish insults.

>second, your tirades are consistently OFF-TOPIC. instead of
>dealing w/ the real issues, you specialize in digressing
>discussion into irrelevent bullshit.

- how is a quesiton off topic? he says that the administration failed to protect american citizens on 9/11 and i simply ask when have you people been concerned about the american people? either you can answer the question or you cant. I dont need a lecture on what you think of me like some kind of little woman duke.


>you ain't serious about shit, clown. take a survey and see if
>anyone even thinks you're halfway close to being REMOTELY
>rational.

- A) doesnt address what ive said about him
B) hasnt answered a single question Ive asked but feels the need to respond. why not just ignore me if im so irrational? i rest my case.
29003, Deleted message
Posted by zewari, Sun Mar-27-05 10:01 PM
No message
29004, Take it to the inbox. Personal attacks will be deleted.
Posted by FireBrand, Sun Mar-27-05 10:05 PM

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Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 10:08 PM
No message
29006, RE: what.
Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 10:11 PM
>i insult you cause you deserve that shit clown. so in your
>deranged little feeble mind, everyone is guilty of slanderous
>accusations until they prove themselves innocent.

- you insult me because you cant deal with what I said about you and the truths behind it: you have never said anything remotely close to "im concerned about the well being of the american people and i want my leadership to reflect this." if this is wrong, prove it.


>what's baseless and irrelevent in your posts on this thread
>was your cosby-esque bitchin' session on ppl who criticize the
>US government.

- read response above.

>this topic was not about me or about whether i said anything
>good about the US, and your point is entirely irrelevent.

- actually i was responding to somebody else (the mod). YOU felt the need to curse me out and get pissed off. toes hurting?


>i won't dignify or validate your personal attacks by answering
>them... but learn a lesson on sticking to subject matter.

- if my question to the mod was insane or ignorant, why didnt u just ignore it? why did you feel the need to respond in such an emotional manner?

>there once was a thread started by Uta on what's good about
>the United States, and i put my two-cents into that
>discussion. so part w/ the crack pipe, PCP, and elmer's glue
>for a minute and reconsider your whole approach you sorry ass
>bitch.

- I dont remember it. what exactly did you say?
29007, why did you edit his post so heavily and not delete it?
Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 09:56 PM
wtf is THIS all about!? you edited his title, then you edited his message of profanity!? man oh man. i know yall are cool but thats just insane...
29008, Many were deleted. The title was editted with that post
Posted by FireBrand, Sun Mar-27-05 10:13 PM
'cus that was the first post I noticed with issues. There was some actual content in it not based on a personal malicious attack. I editted the title only. The others by the same author were deleted.

there was yet another edited only because it needs to be known what the policy is with inflammatory material.

If there is pragmatic content, the first occurence in a thread will be editted and further infractions will be deleted.


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29009, Red Herring, Straw Man.
Posted by FireBrand, Sun Mar-27-05 08:27 PM
Until you are able to ask a salient, coherent question I will answer every question you ask of me with the tool of Semantic noise/faulty logic embedded in said question.

Good day.
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29010, if u are uncomfortable with my question then admit it
Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 08:31 PM
you said that this administration failed to protect the citizens on 9/11.

i turned around and asked "since when have you and the rest of these 'i hate america/government/establishment' muthafuckas given a damn about the american citizens?" why is it that you all can't answer this question?

Also, I asked you what could the govt have done to prevent two airplanes from flying into the WTC? are you saying that THAT question is confusing!?
29011, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH EXPERTISE
Posted by 3X, Sun Mar-27-05 08:54 PM
the NEGRO CON believes that only democrats/"liberals" are capable of perpetrating crimes. in his fantasy world if everyone claimed to be "conservatives" life would be perfect.

cynthia only asked REAL questions. more people need to start doing the same even if it means putting their life on the line.

EXPERTISE'S SOLE MISSION IS TO PROTECT REPUBLICANS/"CONSERVATIVES"
29012, LMAO!!!
Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 08:59 PM
>cynthia only asked REAL questions. more people need to start
>doing the same even if it means putting their life on the
>line.

- said the negro who tries to provoke people from the confines of his computer/4 dollar a month live365 radio station...
29013, MORE NEGRO LIES
Posted by 3X, Mon Mar-28-05 07:44 AM
i love how a lot of you bush fraud fans love to use LIES in attempt to make yourself look good
29014, Unbiased? Look where he got the link.
Posted by Expertise, Sun Mar-27-05 09:14 PM
I'd rather you just say "Because I wanted to" rather than insult my intelligence by thinking I'd be fooled by this "unbiased" mess.

I don't recall any other mod anchoring a swipe before.
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29015, Whether or not another mod anchored a swipe doesn't
Posted by FireBrand, Sun Mar-27-05 09:23 PM
matter. 'Cus well... I'm not them.

The link is Cspan coverage man.

if I got it off of Fox news or The Heritage foundation and it was conservative leaning shit, but it was a Cspan link it would NOT matter. It's still a factual happening there is no subjective filtering.
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29016, Yeah. I can tell.
Posted by Expertise, Sun Mar-27-05 09:29 PM
>I'm not them.

The video clip was slanted in order to advance an idea against the administration. That's biased, and to anchor it draws special attention to the story that no other swipe has gotten.

There have been plenty other swipes throught the days and months. Why does this one get special attention?
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29017, Well, because first of all it was requested.
Posted by FireBrand, Sun Mar-27-05 09:38 PM
secondly, I waited to see it, and to see what the subject matte was before anchoring it- believe me if you look at the conversation I didn't just jump at the opporunity to crucify ole rumsey.

Thirdly, IMO if there is anything that needs to be understood by the general public regarding TAX funded mistakes/mishaps that effect our everyday lives like: war, the price of milk, etc...well, then it deserves to be anchored for no other reason than newsworthiness.

That's my opinion. If you can bring me a good point to why it should not be anchored, it will come down.

But I feel that the info and the line of questioning, and the fact that we talked about many of the issues discussed in that clip on the boards warrant it being anchored.

*shrugs*

there will be more shit anchored you don't agree with in the future, and there will be shit anchored liberals won't agree with.

In either case I'm not moved by your politics. I only care about the subject matter.

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29018, comedy.
Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 09:40 PM
>and there will be shit anchored liberals won't agree
>with.

29019, Request to be anchored is not an excuse.
Posted by Expertise, Sun Mar-27-05 09:50 PM
You could have easily rejected that request.

There are several swipes that are posted that could be looked at as "information that the general public needs to know" and could be considered newsworthy. Big deal. That still doesn't explain why a swipe was considered to be exceptionally significant enough to warrant an anchor.

Whether you're moved by my politics or not is irrelevant. Swipes were not anchored for a reason, and a biased link to a clip is no different.
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29020, there was a policy not to anchor swipes?
Posted by FireBrand, Sun Mar-27-05 09:54 PM
I wasn't aware of this. And you are oversimplifying. I listed at least 3 reasons why this was considered for an anchor. What initiated the thought process was the request.

Again, if you can make an argument as to why anchoring is unreasonable, it won't be any longer.


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29021, I would think the logic behind it would be obvious.
Posted by Expertise, Sun Mar-27-05 10:14 PM
Anchoring posts generally means placing emphasis on a thread that's of particular importance. Anchors in Activist have generally been reserved for threads that's setting up volunteer efforts or organizations, or for job searches that the poster was setting up.

Marcus's thread has nothing to do with any of this, and is no different that the thousands of other threads he has created, or the thousands of threads everyone else has created. Just because you like it, think it's "newsworthy" (Which is a relative term. I could consider Ciara's performance on MTV's Spring Break "newsworthy". Big deal.) and think others should read it too doesn't mean a thing.
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29022, I suppose you are correct about newsworthiness being
Posted by FireBrand, Sun Mar-27-05 10:58 PM
subjective. But this isn't the first non-organization based or jobs post to be anchored, and it won't be the last. This is genuine news from Cspan via a liberal conduit. And so what?

Until you can give a strong argument on why it should be taken down, it won't. Kindly forward any further issues to my inbox.

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29023, How is a video clip hollow and biased?
Posted by Nettrice, Sun Mar-27-05 06:29 PM
I watched the thing and it seemed pretty straight forward.
29024, sine -co
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Sun Mar-27-05 06:38 PM

http://profiles.myspace.com/users/10450673

Chris Defendorf: "We're not done!" (vocally smpling KRS-ONE & PUBLIC ENEMY "HIT THE ROAD JACKKK"

Chuck D: "I KNOW we're not done..."

@@@@

Hank Shocklee on the words Defendorf "Raspberry" uses: "inciteful" (C)
29025, The spin placed on what happened is biased.
Posted by Expertise, Sun Mar-27-05 09:11 PM
And you all know it.
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29026, what spin?
Posted by zewari, Sun Mar-27-05 10:02 PM
she asked questions that rocked your boy rumsfeld

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29027, yeah. That spin.
Posted by Expertise, Sun Mar-27-05 10:15 PM
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29028, There's spin all the way around
Posted by Nettrice, Sun Mar-27-05 10:45 PM
I watched the clip and was looking for some answers, not evasiveness. What I saw was smoke and mirrors. Let's see what they come back with.
29029, rumsfield got her at one point
Posted by suave_bro, Mon Mar-28-05 12:56 AM
he asked her for some info to back her claims up and she didn't have any. I thought this was odd seeing how she was up there challenging them but wasn't prepared to support her own argument...im not saying she CAN'T, just saying if she was gonna fire rounds off @ em she should have been prepared for them to ask some questions of her as well...
29030, She had 5 minutes
Posted by Nettrice, Mon Mar-28-05 12:59 AM
She seemed to be willing to share what she had but refused to be deterred from getting her questions on the record...in writing.
29031, EXACTLY
Posted by 3X, Mon Mar-28-05 10:49 AM
The Q & A session wasn't about cynthia presenting whatever information she had. That particular Q & A session was used to allow cynthia to ask questions. It would have been stupid for cynthia to entertain the questions from the people she was questioning considering she had a limited amount of time.
29032, WHAT'S yOUR PROBLEM with diversity of Expression?????
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Mon Mar-28-05 01:02 AM
It provides safety and security.

Look up the word "Anchor" in the dictionary, and then look up all the related words.
Do NOT skim. Read every word on the page.

Then you'll grok Why it needs to be anchored, IMO

" 'IMO' " was a sample from Firebrand , from my old sig.



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29033, RE: I like her. She tells it like it is.
Posted by almanueva, Sun Mar-27-05 02:52 PM
She is a true patriot.
29034, Mckinney is insane.
Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 04:39 PM
i've watched this about 15 times and if she lives another year I'd be suprised. they were completely caught off guard by these questions and it shows.

the only thing that really caught my attention was the war games questioning. sex rings and trillions of dollars being lost or whatever is of no concern or suprise to me.

HOWEVER. these war games are interesting. im still a firm believer that the govt shouldn't disclose every-single-nuance of what they do or what they know to the american people...strange coincidence that these "war games" were going on on 9-11...how often do they have "war games?" anyway?
29035, irony, Mint Condition & Sounds of Blackness,, circa 1990
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Sun Mar-27-05 05:42 PM
You got Mint condition in your sig.

Sounds of Blackness is WAIE better, even though it's complete and total martyr.



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he aint racist. He's far from that- from what I've seen. IMO.
29036, HELP!!! Does anybody understand the messazge I wrote? THANKS!
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Mon Mar-28-05 01:03 AM

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Chris Defendorf: "We're not done!" (sampling KRS-ONE & PUBLIC ENEMY "HIT THE ROAD JACKKK"

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29037, Good
Posted by Nettrice, Sun Mar-27-05 06:31 PM
>i've watched this about 15 times and if she lives another
>year I'd be suprised. they were completely caught off guard by
>these questions and it shows.

Caught off guard? Sounds familiar to me. Shame, shame.

>the only thing that really caught my attention was the war
>games questioning. sex rings and trillions of dollars being
>lost or whatever is of no concern or suprise to me.

It concerns me because I am an American taxpayer and a citizen.

>HOWEVER. these war games are interesting. im still a firm
>believer that the govt shouldn't disclose every-single-nuance
>of what they do or what they know to the american
>people...

Riiiight.
29038, What's insane about asking for the truth?
Posted by 3X, Sun Mar-27-05 06:58 PM
If Cynthia is talking all of that "conspiracy theory" garbage then YOUR government has no reason to attempt to kill her.

I posted numerous articles on the 9-11 wargame drills and yall bush fraud fans and some "liberals" wrote it off as "conspiracy theory" talk. Well...Richard Myers acknowledge them as being REAL and I still don't know why people can't connect the dots. THE 9-11 WAR GAME DRILLS SERVED AS A COVER FOR THE 9-11 ATTACKS! THE GOVERNMENT PERPETRATED 9-11 IN ORDER TO FABRICATE EXCUSES TO INVADE AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ AND ETC.

Just imagine how the RIGGED presidential debates would allowed people to ask REAL questions.
29039, i take that back...
Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 08:28 PM
>THE 9-11 WAR GAME DRILLS SERVED AS A COVER
>FOR THE 9-11 ATTACKS! THE GOVERNMENT PERPETRATED 9-11 IN ORDER
>TO FABRICATE EXCUSES TO INVADE AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ AND ETC.

- man. i dont even know where to start. this is just...wow.
29040, Please Explain
Posted by 3X, Sun Mar-27-05 08:46 PM
Please explain why that is hard to believe when the 9-11 war game drills were taking place at the SAME time of the 9-11 attacks with the same targets. Coincidence? SERIOUSLY Doubt it..It isn't Usama Bin Laden who is refusing to release the video of Flight 77 supposedly crashing into the Pentagon.
29041, you didnt say that
Posted by suave_bro, Sun Mar-27-05 08:52 PM
you went on a rant about us trying to take over afghanistan and iraq or whatever...

yeah its odd that the war games and 9-11 took place on the same day. i'll be the first to admit to that...HOWEVER, how often are these war games taking place? if these "war games" have been taking place for 10 or 15 years once a month then its not that significant.
29042, WELL...............
Posted by 3X, Mon Mar-28-05 07:03 PM
>you went on a rant about us trying to take over afghanistan
>and iraq or whatever... - Suave_bro

it is obvious that if 9-11 did not happen amerikkka would not have a "legit" excuse to invade afghanistan. remember it was usama bin laden who master minded those attacks from a cave halfway around the earth. remember that is saddam who had weapons of mass destruction. the same weapons of mass destruction that amerikkka proudly has. - 3X

>yeah its odd that the war games and 9-11 took place on the
>same day. i'll be the first to admit to that...HOWEVER, how
>often are these war games taking place? if these "war games"
>have been taking place for 10 or 15 years once a month then
>its not that significant. - Suave_bro

anyone who has done their homework knows that those type of war game drills don't take place once a month. and it is more than a coincidence that amerikkka had 9-11 war game drills at the SAME time with the SAME targets. bush's stooges don't want to discuss this information because the blame would focus more on them than some AWOL arab living in a cave. - 3X

29043, mmmmmm mmmmmmmm!!!!!!
Posted by Allah, Sun Mar-27-05 05:19 PM
29044, ..iiiiccckkkkkinnnnneeryyyyyY!!!!
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Sun Mar-27-05 07:11 PM

http://profiles.myspace.com/users/10450673

Chris Defendorf: "We're not done!" (sampling KRS-ONE & PUBLIC ENEMY "HIT THE ROAD JACKKK"

Chuck D: "I KNOW we're not done..."

PE REDUCER Hank Shocklee on the words defendorf uses: "inciteful" (C) HS
29045, They couldn't have called her "CHRIST!!!!"
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Mon Mar-28-05 01:04 AM

http://profiles.myspace.com/users/10450673

Chris Defendorf: "We're not done!" (sampling KRS-ONE & PUBLIC ENEMY "HIT THE ROAD JACKKK"

Chuck D: "I KNOW we're not done..."

PE REDUCER Hank Shocklee on the words defendorf uses: "inciteful" (C) HS
29046, RE: Cynthia McKinney Grills Rumsfeld. *editted title*
Posted by BILL_THA_PHARMACIZT, Mon Mar-28-05 10:43 AM
People have a difficult time digesting the fact that the war and deception tactics they may have spent their lives reading about in "other" time periods and countries - are being perpetrated against THEM on a day-by-day second by second basis.....

all this is taking place in the most powerful nation in the history of human kind - and the fabric of deception and self-denial is starting to unravel... alot of people are going to have psychological difficulty dealing with this.

and its only going to get worse.





29047, cosine and its not the most racist country... opyimism
Posted by chrisdefendorf, Mon Mar-28-05 01:53 PM
it is only going to get better and better. In the meantime, it's getting worse and worse!!!! and worse....


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Chuck D: "I KNOW we're not done..."

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29048, she got in those slatines asses
Posted by NYC upt JUX, Mon Mar-28-05 06:31 PM
u heard the way those crooked ass mufuhgaz was fumbling, trying to remember the story they told to say. if amerikkka was truly a land of equality and freedom she would be president.


fuck h "dot" clinton

5000.
29049, RE: DAMN!
Posted by auhlixer999, Tue Mar-29-05 03:49 PM

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29050, This just doesn't get old.
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