i've been hearing some things from respected and trusted sources that say it's not the BEST option for us vegans.

Being a vegan who tend to opt more for organic food...soy is probably the most biogenetically engineer food.

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not good for males....

try wheat gluten or seiten instead...

and as mentioned above there are prob issues with GMod too....

why is it a problem for males?

it makes us gain fat weight

you're the dummy. men have estrogen in their system as well, just like women have testosterone in their system. it's a balance thing, and can really cause problems for men when out of whack. soy contains phytoestrogen compounds. but that's just the tip of the iceberg. it also has a lot of compounds that block the absorption of minerals.

the best source for information about soy is westonaprice.org

Dr. Weston Price was a nutrition pioneer who studied the diets of healthy traditional/indigenous cultures around the globe to see what they had in common that gave them low incidence of tooth decay, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and all other modern diseases.

and i don't want to be a party pooper, but there has never been in the history of mankind a society that was vegan...

and it's got sumin that messes with female hormones.

I'm telling you. If u want to eat healthy, u gonna have to grow your own shit, and hunt for the meat.

It aint natural having fields with nuffin but crops- it's just as bad for nature as logging.

It also aint natural to farm meat.

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a lot of truth to what you say. you should check out a philosophy and practice called permaculture. it's kind of a happy medium, a "mixed farm" system where they mimic natural ecosystems with food producing plants, shrubs, trees, etc. with animals as well. They call them "food forests". I've seen a documentary where they took these practices to really devastated, impoverished areas in africa and india and turned them into thriving gardens of eden. Not just good for people, the techniques take into account rebuilding soil stability, recharging the water table, attracting wildlife, etc...

Another good source is an old Japanese man named Masanobu Fukuoka, who developed a zen buddhist inspired system of no till natural farming. He naturalizes vegetables to a semi-wild state. He's as much philosopher as he is farmer.

too much information, i know...

but how many people now about this shit?

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Hey - I read up, as someone who is hypothyroid (slow metabolism among other probs) n soy is pretty bad for folks with thyroid problems. Some people say it can cause them if abused.

And I don't like the taste of tofu (hahahaha)....

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1. Prematurely ages brain cells
2. Decreases thyroid activity
3. Blocks mineral absorption such zinc, calcium,magnesium, etc, etc

If you consume soy it's best to eat fermented soy like miso.

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it's just an expression. ive been drinking soy years longer than those trendy vegans.

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Everyone is losing the glass of soy a night trend:

plastic do the same thing

so try not to eat of plastics if your a man

EVERYTHING is bad for you one way or the other, so eat whatever the fuck you want (within reason and in moderation, of course)

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In Asia the general practice is to consume it with meat- Soy aids in the digestion of meat, and meat in turn cancels out the negative properties in Soy....

gonna have to look into it further.

thanks

mean low surface area to volume ratio............
and something about estrogen.............

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a prominent study of japanese men who ate soy every day found brain degeneration.

as mentioned above, traditionally, soy had always been eaten fermented. miso, nama shoyu soy sauce, tempeh. now tempeh is some good shit!

man, im in thailand travelling right now so ive been eating soy almost everyday to keep my protein intake adequate. soon as i return home im dropping that shit on the fly. but asian countries really do know how to cook a good tofu dish.

1. soymilk is wierd unless its chocolate, which kind of hides the wierdness

2. tofu often ends up becomming airy-wierd insta-mush in your mouth, depending on who cooked it

3. "tofu chicken" is wrong for even TRYING to be like chicken and tasting instead like a sanitized ball of old de-elasticized rubber bands

4. tofu cubes taste like fuckin tofu cubes

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