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28618, RE: just pathetic
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Sun Feb-27-05 09:01 AM
>>>- again, where is this man making mad loot?
>>His income has certainly increased because of the fact that
>>he has promoted himself as being the anti-Negro negro....
>- cmon man...is THIS the type of "debate" you are bringing
>to the table? how do you know this? where are u getting his
>personal income information? man you cant be serious...his
>income has INCREASED because of his political affiliations?
>the man has a JOB if that is what you mean...

Where is the church he is a Rev. for??? Dude has a job..it's being a lawn jockey for the right...nobody was trying to hear his ignorant ass until he started engraciating himself to right wingers like Hannity...

>>but when you look at his website...you see it's just a front
>>from converting Black to the republican party:
>>in the link above he speaks about a boycott of the Naacp...
>>not because they don't serve the Black community..
>>not because they are corrupt...
>>not because of their work, or lack of it...
>>but because Julian Bond said something bad about
>>Because Julian Bond put down republicans...Peterson feels
>>the NAACP should be boycotted...
>>what does that have to do with the live of Black people???
>- from jesse's book SCAM, in the chapter entitled BOYCOTTING
>THE NAACP he lists off the reasons why we should boycott
>them here are a few that debunk your dumbass argument:
>1) absent fathers - jesse peterson calls for the NAACP to
>address this issue within our community, he even provides
>statistics an interesting quote about the parallels between
>fatherless homes and crime rates from Roger Clegg of the
>Center for Equal Opportunity
>2) Out of wedlock birth rates - jesse challenges the NAACP
>to even discuss this openly
>3) Abortion - again, we know our women have more abortions
>than anybody, yet the NAACP doesnt address this issue
>4) Crime - homicide is the leading cause of death for black
>men age 15-34..90% of these crimes are committed by other
>black folks...the NAACP hasn't addressed this issue.
>- and none of this stuff is new if you listen to jesse's
>radio show and read his articles...so what were you saying
>again about jesse calling for a boycott of the NAACP because
>of a speech?

Dude is damn near illiterate sounding..so why would I buy a book he supposedly wrote, or listen to his inarticulate rantings on the radio? You posted the clowns site, and his boycotting info on his site mentions nothing of what you say...only Julian Bond is liberal...so let's boycott the NAACP.

>>Peterson is one of the very few black fake-ass conservative
>>leaders who the right are trying to promote as the "New
>>Black leadership"....but when you look at what they have
>>actually accomplished...you see very little or
>>nothing...other than being a Black mouthpiece for the
>- you still haven't answered my question, you try and paint
>this picture of jesse peterson as this republican black God
>but most people in the republican party stay away from

I'm not calling him any republican black god...in fact to the contrary..I'm calling him a Black republican lawn jockey.

.you have yet to prove otherwise...still going on your
>"gut" feeling...

The man is a fool...he requires little to no critical analysis...

>>>none of what you said is true, but because he speaks on what
>>>he speaks on, this is what is ASSUMED about him...cmon
>>everything I said is true.....Peterson is an ignorant joke
>>who puts a Black face on the Right's attack of Blacks best
>- LMAO!! still going on what u feel in your "heart" to be
>true and ignoring the facts?

it's a fact that he is ignorant..it's a fact that he is being used as a mouthpiece for the right now....He spent years in obscurity...his efforts to be looked upon as a leader were limited to going on shows and attacking Rev. Jackson...being critical of the million man march......when that didn't work, he engraciated himself with the likes of Hannity..after which he started labeling himself as conservative.....

These are facts that I have witnessed.

show me a picture of jesse
>peterson with karl rove, colin powell, condie rice,
>president bush, etc., you wont because those people try
>their best to dissasociate themselves with rev peterson as
>they should...but dont we see sharpton and Jackson mingling
>with democratic elites almost everytime we see them on the

Both Rev. Jackson and Rev. Sharpton have actually done something for Black people in America...both have ran for President. You wouldn't see Peterson with political elite because his intellect isn't sufficient...and he hasn't done anything of note besided spew hate at Sharpton, and Jackson.

wasnt jackson the spiritual advisor to Bill Clinton
>(when both of them were having baby momma drama)? Isn't
>Jesse Jackson's net worth well voer 300 million dollars?
>isnt jesse shaking down corporations and not distributing
>the wealth amongst his own people!? OH!! that's right, jesse
>peterson is worse than him though...gotchya...
Jesse Peterson is irrelevant compared to Rev. Jackson

>>>- whoa...wait a minute. so are you debunking his arguments?
>>>by saying that he sounds "different" than what he sounds
>>>like on his radio show!? (when in fact ive heard him say
>>>this MILLIONS of times on his show)...
>>What I'm saying is that he is a puppet for the right...those
>>aren't his words becaus obviously his level of articulation
>>does not rise to the level to be able to produce that...he's
>>simply a right wing lawn jockey...
>- this is getting repetitive and boring but i will say this
>one more time. jesse peterson is on no republican payroll.

but he has Sean Hannity and Dennis Prager on the advisory board of his so-called orginization.

>this myth that all black folks think alike but the ones
>that think like jesse peterson are being PAID to think this
>way is a joke man...and if you havent noticed, you have
>spent the entire time saying the same thing: "jesse is a
>joke, he is a puppet, he is a right wing yada yada
>yada"...you have yet to debunk this mans points or his

He's not making any original arguements at all....Progressive Black people have been on the front lines fighting for our communities for years....this chitlin mouth sounding negro isn't bringing anything new to the table at all....

after the Million man march he was on television demeaning those in attendance as being less than men because they were crying at the march...I saw and heard Peterson say this with my own eyes and ears....He questioned the manhood of the couple of million men who attended that march...

but yet what he supposedly stands for is the same thing that the million man march....the Nation of Islam and numerous other groups have been standing for for years.....

So it's not about the issues...it's about him attacking those who are making a difference...then promoting the same ideas those difference makers have been promoting as if you are doing something different...
>>>- again, how so? republicans want nothing to do with this
>>>man so how is he being pimped by them?
>>Sean Hannity has had Peterson on his show numerous times
>>without ever disclosing that he is on the advisory board for
>>Peterson's bogus orginization....Dennis Prager...another
>>Zionist right wing communicator is on his advisory
>>board....again....Peterson was not polticial at all until
>>recently when guys like Hannity and Prager became involved
>>with him an became his "advisors" ...now these guys have a
>>negro to bring on their shows...and Peterson repays them by
>>promoting the anti-liberal zionist right wing agenda those
>>types support....
>- BWAAAHHAHAAAA!!!! man you CANT be serious!! jesse peterson
>has had his radio show and has been saying and doing the
>same thing since 1990 (sean hannity first got his radio
>show in 1997!!) your dumbass went down the list on his site
>and conjured up a quick dumbass "conspiracy" theory, how
>fucking stupid do you look...

Sean Hannity recently came under fire for not disclosing the he was on Peterson's board...I've known about this for some time and didn't need to go to the guys website to find it out. Your disrespectful language is only making YOU look foolish...When you have knowledge and experience as I have, you don't have to lower yourself as you are doing.
>>listen to right wing radio shows like laura ingram and you
>>hear peterson and these other Blacks who have gotten money
>>from the Bush administration being promoted as new Black
>- where is the proof of this? there you go again, going on
>old wives tales instead of providing facts to support your
>bullshit claims...
I've heard them with my own ears. That's all the proof I need.

>>then when you go their websites, and check the
>>data....these folks have done less than the smallest
>>fraction for the Black community what the likes of Jackson,
>>Sharpton, and Farrakhan have done.
>- here is a question for you: if those "leaders" died today,
>what would their legacy be? what would they be remembered
>for? the only one in that list that has actually done
>anything to affect the greatest number of black folks is
>Loowey 'i killed malcolm' farakan with the million man
>march...and we all know Jesse and Al have always been
all of those men have somthing that you nor Peterson will ever have...Class, character, respect from their people, and intellect. The courage to do more than provide just lip service...to go on the front lines unlike you and other right wing nigroes who don't have the testicular fortitude to actually put action behind their words.

>>wow...9 success stories....man....just from me representing
>>myself I have been responsible for inspiring more than 9
>>damn Black people to go to college .....lol. So because he
>>has 9 success stories on his website..he can clown Jackson,
>>Farrakhan, Dr. King and others?? get out of here with that
>- well first of all jesse peterson has never clowned doctor

Yes he has....he said that civil rights leaders were socialist pigs....this is the same type of attack that folks made at Dr. King, and when he lumps all civil rights leaders together..he is disrespecting Dr. King.

secondly, lets run a checklist of the things that
>these "leaders" you praise have brought about to our
>community: AIDS, drugs, high incarceration rates, immoral
>stagnating irrelevant music, high abortion rates...hell,
>this new "leadership" after martin and malcolm has damn near
>led us to a genocide all the while they are making
>millions!...surely u wouldnt argue that jesse peterson is a
>millionaire and on top of that i KNOW u wont argue that
>jesse peterson has his hand in our modern day self inflicted
>self hating genocidal tendencies?
Jesse Peterson represents the worst in Black people...ignorance.

>>lol....as I've told you many times before son....regardless
>>of how deep in the Ass of the right you get...it will not
>>help you achieve anything substantial....
>>The fact that you can call me a nigga while trying to hold
>>some intellectual high ground shows that your lack of
>>maturity, intellect, and you are at risk of being turned out
>>by that white man you so desire to model your soul after....
>- man im not about to sit up here and play your little games

no one is playing games. You are using language on a message board that you wouldn't have the balls to use if you were standing in my presence. Keep the debate on a higher level of discourse without the language you use to use back when you were a dead prez fan thinking that calling Blacks nigga made you cool...

.if you go back and read his books and listen to his
>show, he talks about niggas like you constantly..

I've done more in my life to help Black people than Jesse Peterson has....lol.

.make fun
>of how he talks, that he is an uncle tom, that he is a
>puppet blah blah blah...at the end of the day, you cant
>argue the points that he makes. period. and you have proven
>this with your overly emotional tyrade here...

at the end of the day...the man has provided no substance at all.