27100, RE: I don't feel they can be created. Posted by mc_delta_t, Sun Mar-06-05 06:52 PM
>People are always going to look for an advantage.
I don't think this is true, I think it's human nature to survive, not to be greedy, or control. >Communism, IMO assumes that everybody will assume a role >and put the state above personal power struggles. Power >isn't just about money it's about Military strength, >Intelligence, control of key resources, etc... > >When you look at the failure of communism IMO you really see >the failure of implementation of a "utopia" state. I just >don't feel humans are capable of pulling it off.
Now see, this is where i really start to have a problem with these arguments. I don't understand why humans WOULDN'T be capable of "pulling this off".
>You talk about socialism in it's application, and in large >part you are also talking about megadeath: Hitler, Stalin, >Lenin, Mao...
Um, Columbus, George Washington, The Crusades. I don't think it is socialism that is the driving force behind mass murder/opression by powerful figures.
>You would think that in a period of mass political >consciousness and increased literacy that you would have a >working class that wouldn't allow for power struggles like >this. They woulda nipped it in the bud, right? Well, no. >Not when lenin is responsible for around 8 million deaths, >Stalin 20 million, Hitler at 17million, etc... > >what you had was a "Coercive Utopia" (c) Brezinski > >And what IMO is the inevitable evolution from socialism to >totalitarianism.
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