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26780, RE: I wouldn't call it The West vs. Islam
Posted by mcsinger21, Mon Mar-21-05 04:15 PM
>>Bin Laden might win in an election in Saudi Arabia right
>>because everyone has been educated at schools taught by
>>Clerics who teach the extremist forms of Islam.
>Where did you get THIS information?



After a two minute google search.

> The great
>>thing about democracy is it leads to freedom of ideas
>Explain how this is possible in democracy, and not in other
>models. Application might be one thing, but you specifically
>stated that democracy led to IDEAS.

Well I showed have said a democracy ideally leads to the freedom to seek out knowledge. It is not possible if you are ruled by an authoritarian regime (or any regime) that controls information. Democracy does not work if it is controling information thus leading to knowledge thus leading to IDEAS. I realize that this is in theory and it does not always work quite as well as we would like. That being said it works better than not having a choice.

>>That sort of freedom of ideas leads to a broadening of the
>>mind probably driving more people away from the type of
>>that is leads to the blowing up of buildings.
>no, on the contrary that sort of freedom funds the CIA to
>create madrasses that teach militant brands of Islam to fight
>proxy wars the world over, and when their students/student's
>causes are abandoned they blow up buildings like they were
>trained by America to do.

My point does not deal with how the government in charge operates (in particular how it is corrupt). My point deals with the freedom for everyday people to live their life according to how they wish.
> If everyone in
>>America was forced to be taught by the fundamentalist
>>Christians and the only book we were allowed to read was the
>>Bible (or an off shout of writings praising the Bible's
>>teachings) most people would probably be voting Pat
>>for President.
>Pat Robertson isn't that far a stretch from George Bush Jr.
No arguements here on that one.
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