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26536, RE: Descartes proof for the existence of God,
Posted by thoughtremedy, Wed Jan-26-05 07:10 AM
>"Next, Descartes invents the idea of the "Evil Genius" which
>may be percieved as something that is decieving to his
>senses and himself. In order to disprove the existence of
>the "Evil Genius", Descartes is faced with the challenge of
>proving God's existence."
>
> So Descartes theory on God stems from his need to
>disprove something that he "invents". Also, this argument
>assumes that the only infinite could be God.

Not precisely,
He only puts himself into a state of radical doubt, in which he questions his environment. The "Evil Genius" does not need to be interpreted as an entity such as satan, but as the difference in, how the world actually is, and how we percieve it. There is a difference between the actual world, and our perception of it.

>
> If anything, I believe that this statement "We can grasp
>the concept of the infinite, but we are incapable of it's
>excecution." is exactly why we have created God. We can
>grasp the idea of their being an infinite but we can't
>explain it or begin to truly find it. To make ourselves
>better, we create a "God", based on our own image, to help
>explain this mystery and also to add hope and meaning to the
>yes and no choices that we make.

Well, we can explain the infinite, as we can put it into simple mathematics, go on, start counting from 1, you will never find the last number. I am not discussing what we have done with the idea of "God", but what Descartes has done.

> Also, this assumes that there is an infinite being. What
>if there isn't? What if everything is completely evolving
>and changing? Why is he certain that there is an infinite
>being?

If everything is completley evolving and changing, therefore, it is infinite in it's state of change correct? However, try to think of the infinite, as just that, the infinite. You are evolving and changing, yet your body will die. A body capable of the infinite, would never die. He isn't assuming that there is an infinite being, according to his logic, God exists. He has found the puzzle of the infinite, and if it clearly exists, and we are incapable of it, then, there must be a force that is capable of it, don't you agree? It doesn't have to be "GOD", it can be "life", the whole point, and my fascination with his proof, is that there is a force of the infinite that we are humbled by.

Peace.