>nah the word "oriental" was created by Europeans, but it was
>comes from the word "orient" to orient oneself. so what it
>really relates to is a perspective of being the center, such
>as europeans thought europe was the center of the world.

i disagree with this conclusion. to orient oneself with that which is outside, does not imply that you think you're the center of the world. the word "oriental" is a part of a language of a people (england), for whom everything outside of europe IS outside of their origin. it makes perfect sense for someone from house A to look at the houses around them and say "these houses are outside and around us" without thinking that their own house is the center of the town.



>it has those negative connotations such "slanted" which means
>not straight, i.e. not normal. Oriental relates to that
>foreign, not normal, Im half japanese and I've never called
>myself oriental, and oh ya, middle easterners are not asian,
>nor do they call themselves asian. india and iraq are not
>both asian. Osama bin laden is not asian I dont think anyone
>besides you thinks he is.

they are from asia, therefore they are asian lol. the funniest part is people seeing audacity in europeans having european words to describe things. why would you ask someone from a non european place if they're (insert european name for a place here) and let their "no" answer be the truth on a european language? if there was a people from antarctica (who spoke Antartican) who's word for the americas was "Lork" and whose word for that which comes only from virginia and further north was "Frithian", then it would not make sense, when determining what the proper Antartican word for a Mexican is, to ask Oscar De La Hoya if he's a Lorkan and let that be the deciding factor. that being said, i'll call people whatever they want to be called, within reason. if someone wants to be called a "Chimbaroonan" instead of a Greek, i'll call the damn Greek a "Chimbaroonan" lol. but i'm not going to concede that people from Asia aren't Asian. that's utterly stupid.


>asian-american was created by people like me-asians so dont
>trip if a group of people don't want to be called by an
>archaic term made up by ethno-centric europeans.

europeans made up every word in a european language. ayeayeaye.

PS: i'm not tripping, and i haven't used the term "oriental" in some time, and don't mind people asking not to be called that. my BIG issue is the way people ended up replacing it with "Asian", thus totally destroying logic in the name of some silly game.