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26100, What am I rejecting
Posted by insanejake, Wed Dec-08-04 12:12 PM
>akin to holocaust deniers.

Ah, back to shock and offend tactics I see.

>>Do you even know what that means?
>Fucking idiot. Do you know how to read in full context? I
>said belligerence towards defenseless Palestinians. There
>are protocols for rules of militaristic engagement that
>prohibit such acts.

Belligerent means warlike. They are soldiers. Go figure.

>>You been looking at any Arab slogans recently? Nutters make
>>nasty slogans...
>Difference is that zionism is an ideology rooted in hate.
>the Palestinians hatred is rooted in oppression.

Aha, and the Palestinians dont hate the Israelis? Did it ever occur to you that the Zionists just dont care that much about the Palestinians (not that that is right either)?

>zionists act on their hate in ways that directly affects the
>well-being of the overwhelming majority of Palestinians.

And what does this have to do with your "point". Are you saying that terrorism and its consequences font affect the wellbeing of the overwhelming majority of Israelis?

>>Seriously? "All we did was fire a few bullets at someone,
>>and then they tried to shoot us back, how evil they are...."
>I am convinced you are FUNCTIONALLY ILLITERATE. Read the
>passage again, slowly this time. Let the words sink into
>your head. Its the equivalent of razing a neighborhood in
>the name of "hunting a criminal". Also look try and make an
>effort at understanding something called CAUSE AND EFFECT.

I shoot you, you have a bigger gun and shoot me back, and you are the bad guy? I get it. And how should they find the person shooting at them? Ask nicely? Its not a great way of dealing with the situation, but if you hide terrorists, and you know you are dealing with a violent regime, dont be surprised when they come to get you...

>The settlers do all sorts of horrendous shit without facing
>any reprimand, so its not suprising that somebody would want
>to bust a cap in their ass. THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE WAS
>STARTED BY THE ZIONISTS, and the passage demonstrates the
>staple disproportionate response to fascist occupation.

In other words, "they started it". This is puerile and facile to say the least....

>>Yup, training to be a soldier does nasty things to people. A
>>bit like training to be a suicide bomber...
>except 1.) suicide bombers are the product of oppression,

"they started it" again. Its ok to kill civilians, as long as they are Israeli civilians...

>2.) the israeli soldiers are the product of a fascist
>zionist state whose leaders want no peace.

Unlike the leaders of the suicide bombers who are desperate for peace at any cost? By the way, how often have legitimate palestinian democratic leadership elections been held. Dont be too quick to throw the term "fascist" around. It might come back at you like a boomerang...

>Oh ok, so when a criminal confesses, he is not reliable.
>Your logic is astounding.

So he admits to being a bastard, but because he is an Israeli bastard, its a good source. I have never seen an article where an Arab examines himself in this way...