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25964, RE: Obama votes to confirm Rice and against challenging electoral count
Posted by SouthernSon, Wed Jan-26-05 06:06 PM
>http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00002
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>so, today obama voted in favor of confirming rice as
>secretary of state, despite her lies/misstatements about WMD
>put a disproportionately black infantry in harm's way for no
>good reason, being an obvious lapdog/yeswoman for bush, and
>well, not having any experience in foreign policy outside
>around two decades spent studying what is now a non-existent
>entity (communist russia).
>

While I disagree with Obama's vote, I certainly do not believe that his vote for Rice's confirmation is indicative of his lack of progressive ideals. Consider that the majory of Senate Democrats voted for Rice's confirmation (32-13). The Democratic Party is certainly a progressive political machine.

>he also voted against supporting boxer's move to oppose
>certifying the 2004 electoral vote count, despite boatloads
>of evidence that the election was awash with suspicious or
>illegal vote suppression activities undertaken by republican
>operatives.
>

I don't understand why people keep trying to push this. Where I believe that the Democratic Party was correct in its challenge in Florida in 2000, Ohio is not Florida. Consider that there are fifty states with essentially fifty different election guidelines and rules; voting irregularities are bound to happen. I think the margin of victory, particularly in those states that swung the election like Ohio, was high enough to remove doubt about who really won the election. I mean, President Bush won reelection by 3 million votes nationally. I don't believe it gives him any particular mandate as he proclaims, but I certainly think it should nip any allegations of illegitimacy in the bud.

>ah yes, the progressive we dreamed of. go obama go. sigh.
>____

Progressive != blind opposition to the Republican Party

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