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296, Revision come in lieu of new information...
Posted by Mau777, Sat Aug-07-04 11:08 PM
...information which you seem to reject, because the U.S. doesn't come out looking squeaky clean.

>Good revisionist history. They knew the extent of damage in
>both Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the military wanted to keep
>on fighting even after that. It was the Emperor himself who
>finally intervened and accepted the peace terms.

Duh. There was a failed coup attempt by SOME military officials who would have rather all Japanese die than admit defeat. But the Emperors word was divine and final. The coup failed because the military officials who needed to be aligned with the coup for it to be successful, did not align.
The extent of damage to Hiroshima was not known until after Nagasaki had been destroyed.

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>*LOL* Racism? Those motherfuckers were responsible of the
>deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans....yet you want
>to stay Hiroshima was based on racism?

The American lives lost were ALL military lives. None civilian.

I'll repeat;

"I'll say this, military reasons, desire for atomic diplomacy (Impressing the Soviets), racism, the need for a number of scientists to validate their work, fear of Congressional investigation for a two billion dollar expenditure, and the immeasurable momentum of the Manhattan Project itself, propelled the administration to use the bomb."


I retract that it was a heavy factor, but yes, racism factors in. The German people were not dehumanized by the U.S. propaganda machine. They clearly distinguished Hitler and his regime from the masses of German people. The Japanese on the other hand were delegated the status of "Slanty eyed yellow Jap savages" as a whole people. "Who gives a fuck about dem?!?!...ALL dem damn Japs are animals."(Your sentiments as well I see) History shows us what happens when caucasians see a group of people as sub-human. They make them guinea pigs for new levels of hatred and barbarism.

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>If it was simply about racism, there would have been more
>bombs dropped not only on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but on
>Tokyo, Kyoto and other places where there were plenty of
>more people and would have destroyed the country as well.

Again, you fail to see how politics plays into this. The U.S. didn't know what the full effects of the bomb would be. They needed targets they had very little or no destruction from previuos bombings. The rest of Japan was fucked from being bombed(Tokyo included). Hiroshima and Nagasaki had not been touched and they were large enough cities, so they were chosen for the tests. Kyoto was spared for its "historical value", but it was also on the list of possible targets.

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>Even in the bloodiest war in history are yall trying to show
>compassion for the enemy. How absolutely pathetic.

Shinjimae baka shiro. The only thing pathetic is the way you think. You obviously have zero experience with any form battle where your life is on the line and have never seen someone die violently in front of your face, much like the administration whose balls you polish whenever possible. If you had, you would not wish that fate on someone who had done nothing to deserve it. Now don't you say they deserved it. If some Iraqis came to your house, liquified your families eyes, injected them with drugs so they wouldn't lose consciousness, slowly burned the flesh off their bodies, cut off their limbs, shot them all in the stomach, left them to die slowly and then went to every family in your little country town and did the same, you would say your family and the others didn't deserve that. Multiply that experience a hundred-fold and you got the effects of those bombs.
But I could be wrong. Maybe you have had experience with death and you actually enjoy it. Your pathetic sadism loves the fact that Native Americans are damn near extinct. It thinks slavery was actually good for Africans. The assassinations of the 60's Black leaders were justified.
But since nobody with any true experience with life & death would ever have 13,000+ posts on Okayplayer, I'll say you just a punk. Scared to do any real research beyond your foxnews nourished ideals, because you might actually learn a bit of truth. And that truth just might make you have to throw out everything you've been hoodwinked and bamboozled into believing for all these years.
Now, i'm all for cats being passionate about they shit, but you really sound like you think Rupert Murdoch got scouts on OKP. Dog, they ain't here. Just admit that the bombings had very little to do with "saving lives" and ending an already ending war. Just admit there were other factors involved. It's not hard...it might even make you feel a little better.

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