but yeah, the figure is somewhere up around ~17 million or so. The devastation in Eastern Europe was ungodly.

>If a lot of the people in this thread are right - that is,
>it wasn't necessary to kill all those innocents to knock
>sense into Japan - then the US should apologize. Just like
>Japan should for its own heinous crimes. And Germany, etc.

Man, Japan doesn't even ACKNOWLEDGE its own heinous crimes from WWII, let alone apologize for them. I mean yeah it'd be nice if every nation on earth apologized to every other nation it's ever wronged in its history... but as dhalgren pointed out, nobody apologizes for anything for the most part, so why apologize for Hiroshima?

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