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2316, I'm going according to your standards...
Posted by LK1, Sun Mar-21-04 05:54 PM
>but "interracial" children have existed for decades,
>centuries. it's not the new/hype thing to do, it's been
>going on forever. question: what qualifies someone as
>"interracial"? if two people, each having one white parent
>and one Black parent, have children, are those children
>interracial?

well, according to your standards, yes. obviously (at least I presumed this was obvious), there is no such thing as "interracial", but for what we are discussing, there is. I'm going on the precedent you have set.

and if those children all have children with
>people whose grandparents had one white parent and one Black
>parent, are their children interracial?

depends how dark they are, who their friends are, etc.. right? I have no clue....

so on and so forth.
>it gets crazy after a while and it's rather silly for folk
>to think that being interracial is the wave of the future.

It's not a philosophy of mine... just look around and then think back about 30 years, you know?

>that shit is the wave of the past, a past the let
>interracial folk know that despite the percentage of "white
>blood" in their veins they are still niggers.

I never claimed that it was a "wave" or a "fad".. just the natural progression of things...

>a Black person can be anti-Black when s/he consciously
>decides to do something that is opposed to Black solidarity.
>being Black you have to always be aware of both individual
>and collective implications.

and now for your definition of "Black":

we've stumbled across what is precisely my confusion...

>hmm...having the choice between letting kids be exposed to
>good politics or bad politics, i'm choosing good politics. i
>mean i understand you're point about object lessons. but a)
>there's a urgent need for change so wasting time waiting for
>folk to come around when it could be nipped in the bud from
>the jump is silly. why bother? b) i don't think you always
>need to have an object lesson in order to discern truth. for
>instance, you don't have to drink spoiled milk to know that
>it will turn your stomach.

I don't think there is any better way to confront such an ambiguous subject better than to be a product (or by-product, lol) of its effects. I sure as hell wouldn't trade my mut family for any others knowing what I know now...

>i hear you on your friends case but on the real that happens
>to all of us. welcome to the family. does he really believe
>that he'd be exempt? what makes him so special?

Nothing except the conclusion that to worry about such things is to create an illusion of self (given the majority of people buy into this illusion), and to recognize that culture doesn't necessarily equal "race" (whatever "race" means).

>i'm really sick of mixed kids complaining that they can't be
>Black enough. why not? if they are going off things kids
>said to them in middle school then they are being really
>petty. get over it, kids are cruel. move on. but if they are
>going off somethings other adults are saying to them then
>maybe they are clinging to elements of whiteness.

or just disgruntled to the point that they are above it and don't give a shit...

>lastly, people have existed for about 150,000,000 years and
>we aint the same color yet.

yeah, but the rates are staggering...

>peace.
>
>p.s. to your comment about me having "been there before" in
>order to have validity. if you're implying that i've
>interracially dated, you are sadly mistaken.

ok...

and i have
>validity because i'm a Black person that can articulate a
>position.

I don't doubt this... I just don't see how your "smitten" comment can be anything other than personal, for sure.

going by your logic only former presidents of the
>US can critique bush. give me a break.

I disagree with this analogy. We are discussing innate sin here, not external decisions. We do not know the true motives of others, and as long as that is the case, who are we to judge? peace,