22431, RE: The real problem with poor people is...|
Posted by k_orr, Mon Aug-14-00 08:30 AM
>I think the problem this discussion
>is turning into is 'all'
I'm trying to turn into an all conversation. How do we address the problems of all poor people, but in particular those folks whom we might disapprove of.
>Can all poor people get jobs?
>(No, studies on the current
>welfare state is proving that)
They can all get jobs, barring disability. But jobs alone might not pay for their lifestyles. Jobs often have hidden costs. I thought after I started working full time I would be getting paid like a mug. Well I'm working fulltime and I have to eat lunch with my co-workers, buy business clothes, dry clean. There are all sorts of incidentals to having a professional job.
And professional jobs are becoming harder to get, and good paying blue collar jobs are even more difficult to get.
>Are some poor people not working
>out of choice? Yeah, I
>think some are.
>Can all of poor people's problems
>be blamed on racism? A
>huge percentage can easily be
No doubt. Although is wanting to live among your own racism?
Is there a difference between white professionals moving to the suburbs and black students creating all african american dorms?
>Until, we agree on this (maybe
>we can't) this discussion might
>not get anywhere.
I think we agree on some points, but we might just be talking past each other on others.