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Posted by guest, Mon Aug-14-00 05:29 AM
You're impression of America manages to preclude a great number of indiscretions and crimes that are perpetuated by America.

If its not the false imprisonment of Haitian refugees, its covert operations in several nations around the world, its CIA operatives that import crack, other drugs and weapons into our community to pledge allegiance to those same foreign countries that you claim wouldnt afford us the opportunity to speak out about such things.

Seeing as America is the world power- your argument that were better off here may not suffice against the argument that this very country is what makes situations elsewhere so dire.

Im not takin this to the one on one- the two of you (bin and bomb) seem to think this is not the place for talking but i think this place was founded on the premise of productive discussion. People should get these issues out in the open and share their ideas.

"America is the greatest country on Earth." thats a pretty bold statement and I dont think you can make such an assessment in the comparitive fashion you're suggesting. Have you ever lived outside of america? Fact is you dont know how other countries are, nor do you know the full extent to which America has caused whatever conditions you wouldnt be happy with.

"This is a country based on more economic freedom, personal freedom, then anywhere else..." This country is also based on more racism and race ideology than anywhere else- this idea still persists to divide and conquer human dignity and liberation. Furthermore the means of economic and personal freedom are disproportionately distributed along class lines that attempt to facilitate the fore mentioned race ideology.

I dont know exactly what you mean by personal freedom but the fact is if your personal freedoms dont have the capacity to keep you from being shot and brutalized by the authority then your personal freedoms arent worth shit- ask amadou diallo he was free, he was also shot 41 times- the only guys that are free now are the cops that shot him.

"if you work hard enough (regardless of what that work entails) you can achieve your goals...whether they be financial, cultural, etc etc."

...regardless of what that work entails- dont be so sure about that. Urban work may entail drug sales- and while much of the drugs have been supplied and provided for by the american government the american justice system will turn tail and prosecute the guys they sold the drugs to. While working hard is an option for all the regards to which you are working are severely unfavorable among Blacks. Again it doesnt matter how much Im allowed to work if I can still be brutalized, killed, under and misrepresented. did Diallo have a job?

"England, Canada, and Austrailia are all little veriosns of the US in one form or another..."

This is silly talk- Those countries are governments by regency and parliament, they honor the anglican church, the royal family, and parliament. to say that they are little versions of teh US is foolish cuz their system of government and society precedes ours by a century or two. Have you ever been to any of these countries?


America is not the greatest country in the world and people who disagree with you dont necessarily need to go to another country- but perhaps for your own enlightment you might try travelling abroad yourself.


Please feel free to respond

K