>>Considering socialism is more authoritarian than
>>capitalism, nope.
>
>I love how you always substantiate
>your statements.

Thanks. I was sure I explained how the majority uses government to act as the voice of law over the minority, but I had to explain that for the 100th time.

>>not
>>all issues are as important
>>as another. Hence, the
>>majority of an issue like
>>say, abortion would not have
>>the influencial power over a
>>majority that has direction over
>>what to do with your
>>tax dollars. A majority
>>on child safety, would not
>>have as much importance as
>>one that is decides how
>>the strength of national defense.
>> Sure abortion and child
>>safety is important, but nowhere
>>near the measures of those
>>two.
>And who decides the importance of
>both ? Your enlightened
>self ? Based on
>what ? With what
>authority ? You don't
>have children, right ?

It's not a judgement factor, it's a control factor. If you think the abortion issue has more importance and control over the direction of the nation than how taxes are being spent and given to, then you're crazy. Same goes with foreign policy.

>In terms of number of people,
>yes. In terms of
>access to power and resources,
>however, it's a very different
>story.

You said yourself that the situation can change. Poor people can be richer, and vice versa. Hence, the point is that they have the opportunity to make it accessible.

>>There
>>is a difference between having
>>national and state representatives vote
>>on the amendments and having
>>it based on popular opinion.

>Like those representatives aren't elected based
>on popular opinion ?
>All I've seen so far
>are two presidential candidates who
>try everything to appeal to
>everyone, even if it means
>contradicting themselves from state to
>state. Their only program
>is to become president, no
>matter how.

True. But there is a major difference between one representative and a slew of people. Not every representative votes the exact way everyone wants him to vote.

>At least Nader has a program
>that doesn't change every 2
>days and isn't based on
>popular opinion.

Actually Nader's ideals are more popular than most people believe, and that's REAL scary. I see the Democratic party adopting alot of his ideals sooner or later. It's only a matter of time. Hopefully by then the Libertarians will have a strong following also, and can combat them from hurting the nation.

>So maybe you should vote for
>your good friend Ralphie if
>you really mean what you
>say.

Just because he has a concrete stance doesn't mean I have to like his stance. I don't care how firm he is with his beliefs I care about those beliefs making sense or not, which they don't.

>Who decides what the role of
>schools is ? Your
>enlightened self again ?
>Aiming high and being ambitious
>are such general remarks that
>everyone will agree with it.
> However, today if you
>aim high in terms of
>respect for the environment or
>are ambitious about grass roots
>education or alphabetisation, there aren't
>much rewards/recognition in doing that.

Actually I advocate private schooling, but if we are to have public schools, then I say take it out of the hands of the federal government and have the local school boards decide the content of the subject matter in contrast to most college requirements.

>>>You're not THAT naive, are you
>>>?
>>>AOL-Time Warner ?
>>>Procter & Gamble ?
>>>Ford ?
>>>Dole ?
>>>Microsoft ?
>>
>>So, so, so, so, and so.
>>
>>The most I do as in
>>AOL-Time Warner is watch some
>>Turner owned channels (since I
>>am from Atlanta).

>You don't own any CD's then
>?
>You don't watch any movies ?

Actually, I don't own any CD's. Why buy CD's when you have the radio? You have the internet, where you can listen to music for free all around the world? It's called using your resources.

As for movies, like CD's I have a choice on what movies I want to buy/watch, or I don't have to watch movies at all. Therefore you do have control over who you do business with.

>>Not
>>much Proctor and Gamble either.
>
>Ariel, Lenor, Pampers, Always, Oil of
>Olaz, Infasil, Old Spice, Ellen
>Bertrix, Dreft, Milton, Mr Propre,
>Ace, Antikal, Vidal Sassoon, Pantene,
>Head & Shoulders, Laura Biagiotti,
>Giorgio Beverly Hills, Hugo Boss,
>and 290 other products.

Out of that I might buy Head & Shoulders on occasion, but that isn't my point. You act like these are the ONLY products out on the market, and they aren't. It's simple. Look and find, or don't use that product at all.

>>I don't own a
>>car, I use public transportation
>>(buses and trains)
>
>Who made those buses and trains
>you're riding ?
>The government ? ;-)

Actually it was a public company, not a car company, as most public transportation is in this country.

>That doesn't change the fact that
>the Web and everything that's
>computer related is heavily 'Microsofted'
>and that you don't have
>much choice. You either
>have to go for Windows
>or MacOS (BeOs and Linux
>are still marginal). That
>doesn't bother me that much,
>but it's just one company
>basically controlling the way our
>economy works. Take away
>all Windows computers and see
>what happens.

But one reason why is because people actually LIKE Windows. Sure there are some bugs, but there isn't anything out there better and more compatible. Remember, Windows was made to accompany DOS systems, and DOS was way popular than Apple products before Bill Gates made Windows. Therefore, when Windows was made it only made it even more mainstream and more appealing. But anyways, the point is that people don't use the other names in the market not because they don't have a choice, but because most people like the name brand product.

>>What do we call that?
>>Fraud. Is fraud illegal?
>>Yes. Case closed.

>Tell that to those people who've
>had an accident in such
>a car, and wished there
>had been some way to
>effectively control General Motors.

And how are you going to do that, by having government control them? Sure. The same rules apply whether government owns businesses or private sectors own them. Less competition means products have a tendency to become relaxed, hence faulty. So, considering government has no competition, they will give the consumer what they want to give them, not what they actually deserve.

>>into fighting corruption neither.
>
>The biggest corporations are already bigger
>now than some governments, and
>this trend is getting stronger
>as we speak.
>Governments have a national legislation, while
>companies operate globally. That's
>the real problem.

Actually, it's becoming smaller and smaller. Because the increase in business establishments, that means the major corporations don't have a individual hold on the economy like they used to. The most powerful companies are the ones of the past, from the 1890's and such. Microsoft does not have the stranglehold on the economy that US Steel did, and as the economy grows, that means their hold on it will get even smaller.

>Who colonized & killed the native
>Americans and installed a new
>state ? Europeans.
>That's where your constitution goes
>back to.

That was not due to the Constitution itself, it was due to bigoted people trying to use law and government when it was best convient. You read the Constitution and find where it says the persectution of Natives or any other people was constitutional. It's just that the people turned their backs on the whole thing. Most even advocated it.
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship." - Alexander Tyler

"In general the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to the other." -Voltaire

"The assumption that spending more of the taxpayer's money will make things better has survived all kinds of evidence that it has made things worse. The black family- which survived slavery, discrimination, poverty, wars and depressions- began to come apart as the federal government moved in with its well-financed programs to "help." - Thomas Sowell

"Life is insensitive, and the truth can be highly offensive. To hide from either is to hide from the reality of life. Take pride in the fact that I am an equal opportunity offender. You today, someone else tomorrow. You have no constitutional right not to be offended." - Neal Boortz

Some of you still think America's a
democracy. Lemme break it down for
ya...

* Democracy:  Three wolves and a sheep
vote on the dinner menu.
* Democratically Elected Republic: Three
wolves and 2 sheep vote on which sheep's
for dinner. 
* Constitutional Republic: The eating of
mutton is forbidden by law, and the
sheep are armed.

The United States is a CONSTITUTIONAL
REPUBLIC. Not a democracy.

Yes....I am a PROUD Black Libertarian Conservative.