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21538, RE: Quoting Marx
Posted by k_orr, Thu Aug-31-00 08:41 AM
>First of all, the reason upliftment
>of Black People is necessary
>is beacause of Christian Capitalists,

Please. Everybody and their brother has had a hand in keeping the black man down. Most of the hard core capitalists don't even worship.

>you would see my beef
>with Western Christanity

Which has also been the source of inspiration for black folks since we got here. Personally I'm not a Christian, but I do recognize that it is a strong force in some people's lives. When times have gotten tough, folks have gotten through it with God. (The white Jesus on the my grandmothers' wall. In competes with my pop's Haile Selassie.)

> Slavery, Inquisitions, Witch Hunts,
>all types of other barbarity.

You could blame all those things on men. You could call them europeans. We could look at any culture and see that same sort of depravity. During the rape of Nanking, no one was hollering Jesus.

>Remember Christanity was used to
>rationalize slavery,

They needed something to settle it in their minds. But christianity is a pretense, not the reason for. The hardcore puritans didn't have slaves.

>How canb
>you subscribe to the same
>ideology that GW Bush, Alan
>Keys, Pat Robertson also claim?

can they suscribe to the same faith that MLK, Mother Teresa, and Harriet Tubman had?

>Finally what is this about the
>upliftment of Black people,

Specifically, we want equal treatment in this country in everything. And if it's good enough for us, it is good enough for the rest of my oppressed brethren. Unfortunately I do not see the efforts of my folks as well as I need to.

>How
>about the upliftment of all
>people that is only way
>it will work.

So we uplift the capitalists too? We uplift those that hold the power?

>When all
>the people of the world
>are enlightened, you supposed to
>Christain (i'm assuming cuz of
>your rsponse but you separate
>god's people in groups, it
>makes sense the White folks
>who taught you that mythology
>did the same...)

I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know why you want to call me a Christian. But your words should be offensive to anyone of reason, much less faith.

What about
>the Native Americans allover this
>hemisphere getting shitten on from
>Texas to Chile', what about
>the poor whites in Appalacia,
>what about all the other
>oppressed people, down they need
>upliftment too?

When black folks get rights, they actually trickle down to others.

What's the need
>for upliftment when the Earth
>is infested with savagery?
>
>I understand why you are upset
>you practice Western Christianity,
>Capitalism, Racialism.... I'm sorry for
>disrespecting your time honored faiths....

Whatever.

k. orr