20612, RE: If you cant stand the heat Posted by guest, Mon Oct-23-00 10:02 AM
>I didnt berate the original post >nor its author- I asked >that she cite a source >for a very bold statement. >Like I said she didnt >claim it was her opinion >until I raised the idea >that it was nothing but.
i agree that she made a statement. but i believe you have misinterpreted this person's statement. ordinarily, IN MY EXPERIENCE, i have noticed that most STATEMENTS made to this, or any other MESSAGE BOARD, have been spawned by a person's opinions, and it was never said that it was in fact their opinion...that was a given.
> > >While this board is definitely a >place to express opinion I >think to sit quietly by >and not challenge opinions you >disagree with- or are even >offended by is a miscarriage >of what this site can >accomplish.
in that respect, yes, you are right. however, i did not say that you should sit idly by and not express your opinion in return. my statement and observation of what i read was a person posting their opinion and then you demanding that they substantiate their opinion. Now if the person had said this was fact, then I can understand your need for them to validate a point. but in this case i don't.
>I was just wondering >to myself what this site >would be like if we >all just agreed with each >other even if we didnt; >or maybe if we all >just let people's unvalidated opinions >breed negativity and mischaracterization about >other people's cultures. Maybe we >could all sing We are >the world- or as you >suggest "don't read it, and >move on to another post."
in that respect i do understand and agree. but again, your post is rather antagonistic in the way it was delivered/interpreted. it could all well be possible that i'm interpreting what you wrote in the complete opposite manner by which you intended for it to be perceived, but then i can say the same for your interpretation of Shepoet's original post.
> > >Deli- i suggest you take your >own advice- if you dont >like what ive had to >say then dont read it >and by all means be >my guest and dont respond. >You say that you cant >see where anyone is speaking >for any race or culture- >but that is EXACTLY how >this post started... > >"This loathing of darkness is prevalent >in just about any culture >and ethnic group that I >can think of. For caucasians/europeans, >the 'ideal' beauty is flaxen >hair, blue eyed, fair of >skin, yadda, yadda."
where in that line do you see her/him say "And I speak for so-and-so when I say..."This loathing of darkness...yada yada yada"? I don't see it anywhere. If she/he doesn't flat out say that they are speaking for someone, how can you interpret it as such? I read the comment, and I didn't see where she/he was saying that.
> >If thats not speaking for someone >else's culture I dont know >what is- if you admit >that you are no authority >on the subject then dont >get offended when somebody points >it out as a matter >of opinion and not a >substantiated one at that. >
she/he never claimed to be an authority. again, please show me where she/he says this, because I didn't see it, and I have read the post(s) a few times.
>As for this stuff > >"There is no need for her >or you to validate your >opinions and/or your experiences." > >That's nonsense- you should do that >for your own sake- especially >when engaging in discussion. > >K
if she/he or you were giving a dissertation, conducting a debate or symposium...then yes, validate away ... but it's just a human saying how they feel. just as you and i are humans...stating how we feel. our feeling do not have to be substantiated. i don't have to agree with you to respect your opinion, but i don't have to demand you validate your opinion to me, either.
let's just agree to disagree and move on.
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