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20354, Conspiracy Theories....
Posted by naame, Thu Oct-26-00 05:10 AM
1. AIDS epidemic in Africa is the result of smallpox vaccinations. Once the AIDS kills the infected the body parts are used on the black market since they are the most expensive illegal object.

2. Silent helicopters...only heard by dogs...like the one that was being walked around the corner from Nicole Simpson's house...

3. Ron Brown, shot in the back of the head...we were told that he was mangled and the body wasn't found until two days after the plane went down.

4. We know MLK was killed by the government. Malcolm's gunshot wounds were all in the back...the muslims who shot him from the front...blanks.

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20355, RE: Conspiracy Theories....
Posted by Tank, Fri Oct-27-00 06:57 AM
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20356, you could just post it as....
Posted by TinkyWinky, Fri Oct-27-00 09:16 AM
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Posted by Tank, Fri Oct-27-00 11:06 AM
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20358, RE: theory # 1
Posted by guerilla_love, Fri Oct-27-00 07:04 AM
is this still a theory or is it generally accepted? when i was in grade school tehy told me some crazy africa screwed a monkey or gorilla or somethin, but africa is older than the 1900's, and if people were curious about screwing primates the practice woulda started long, long ago

anyway, i heard that the vaccine was concieved in a lab in maryland and then tested in africa and spread shockingly fast from there
20359, RE: theory # 1
Posted by guest, Fri Oct-27-00 07:36 AM
You touched on the main thing that I don't understand at all about AIDS - where it came from. They've traced it's start to Africa, but like you said it's a fairly new disease. I could believe that it came from monkeys since humans get diseases from animals all the time (Europeans getting smallpax, black plague, etc), but it if that was so then wouldn't they have got it centuries ago? I don't know, something just doesn't seem right about the time frame.

Adn regarding what you were told in elementary, I'd chalk that up to the basic ignorant/racist comment people make about Africa. Yes, a person could get a disease by sexing and animal, but there'd have to be an awful lot of beastiality to start an epidemic. Most likely when diseases are transferred from animal to humans it's from living in close proximity to them. This usually happens in unsanitized urban areas (which could be the case in some African communities), either from bites, eating the animal, basically wallowing in each others' filth for years will do it (this is how Europe got the plague and eventually developed resistances to smallpox).


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20360, RE: theory # 1
Posted by Tank, Fri Oct-27-00 08:56 AM
Did you know that they used to say that Syphillus (sp?!) was an 'African' disease?

It's all bullshit, it didn't start in Africa, smae way Syphilus didn't, it started in some lab in a western country...

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20361, RE: theory # 1
Posted by guerilla_love, Fri Oct-27-00 09:20 AM
Africa is old old old old old old old old
Aids is young young young young young
(don't ask me why i feel the need to repeat myself so much...)

one theory is that aids came from one of those germ warfare labs. they tested it, and it spread.

either way, i agree that it started in the west and was planted in africa. and then SO TYPICAL of the west, instead of admitting wrongdoing, giving CHARITY, like we gonna come bail you outta this shit

as for sanitation, people grow immune to bacteriea when exposed to it extendedly. do you know any directly african people? most first generation african immigrants that i knwo have never been sick and have never gone to a doctor.

aids is new, and unnatural, easily spread
plus easily spread through sex (can you imagine switching to condom use after always being free?)
---> so dangerous

the worst worst worst worst worst thing about aids is its ties to neglected and disrespected people
20362, RE: theory # 1
Posted by guest, Fri Oct-27-00 10:00 AM
>as for sanitation, people grow immune
>to bacteriea when exposed to
>it extendedly. do you know
>any directly african people? most
>first generation african immigrants that
>i knwo have never been
>sick and have never gone
>to a doctor.
>
>aids is new, and unnatural, easily
>spread

This is exactly what gets me. If it did come from African's contact with monkeys (since that's the going theory), then wouldn't they have developed an immunity to it over the thousands of years that they have been living in the same place as them? Just like how Europeans eventually developed immunity to smallpox and other diseases after they started urbanizing and living in close contact with cows and pigs. The only thing I can think of is that as Africa becamse more urbanized in the last century they started getting the diseases in the same manner as Europe did centuries ago. But even then they didn't live with monkeys in the cities like Europe did with cows, so that theory doesn't hold up.

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20363, Careful Now...
Posted by Tank, Fri Oct-27-00 11:04 AM
>do you know
>any directly african people? most
>first generation african immigrants that
>i knwo have never been
>sick and have never gone
>to a doctor

Even positive generalisations are dangerous things...

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20364, RE: Careful Now...
Posted by guerilla_love, Mon Oct-30-00 06:41 AM
>>do you know
>>any directly african people? most
>>first generation african immigrants that
>>i knwo have never been
>>sick and have never gone
>>to a doctor
>
>Even positive generalisations are dangerous things...
>

from what i have seen, people who grow up away from the modern medicine that the western world is so proud of have no need for the medicine. in some cases there are indigenous medicines and indigenous treatments. but i never would have imagined that human beings could look as healthy as the people i saw in the jungle... but i had to get a million vaccines (that's is very definately an exxaggeration) in order to go, and for my western body the jungle was chock full of health hazards beyond my wildest imagination.

for example, western people can't go barefoot in tropical jungle because of worms and parasites. but every indigenous (please do not picture naked tribal people here-indigenous means native to the area-- all kinds of people can be native to an area) person in the jungle was barefoot and laughing at our shoes. sometimes tourists do take off their shoes, and most of the time they end up getting very sick.

think of the difference between a mister-cleaned kitchen in the west vs. teh fruits you get on the street in developing countries and bite right into (think guinnep).

some people are very very very worried about germs, and oftentimes they are sickly ones. cause and effect are, i believe, interchangeable here.

my statement was a generalization, but i stand by it, as a generalization. and i hope to hell that we all know well enough to recognize a generalization when we see one and acknowledge that of course there are so many individual differences within it.
20365, RE: theory # 1
Posted by guest, Fri Oct-27-00 09:09 AM

>anyway, i heard that the vaccine
>was concieved in a lab
>in maryland and then tested
>in africa and spread shockingly
>fast from there

Have you ever heard of "Kemron"? Supposedly an African doctor created a cure for AIDS. This was in the early nineties. There was very little info about the supposed cure, and the theory was quickly silenced.





20366, RE: theory # 1
Posted by guerilla_love, Fri Oct-27-00 09:22 AM
>Have you ever heard of "Kemron"?
> Supposedly an African doctor
>created a cure for AIDS.
> This was in the
>early nineties. There was
>very little info about the
>supposed cure, and the theory
>was quickly silenced.

iiiinteresting....



20367, RE: Conspiracy Theories....
Posted by guest, Fri Oct-27-00 09:15 AM
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1. HIV, the human form of SIV a disease only known in animals until 1950's, was allegedly developed by the Wistar Institute here in Philadelphia. The scientists were developing a vaccine for smallpox, but used a monkey or chimp I forget which one , but anyway the animals they used had the disease SIV. There were recent inquiries about the vaccine. They even went as far as testing what was left of the 'original vaccine' . I don't think anyone would keep samples of a vaccine that has killed millions of people, the lawsuits would have been overwhelming. The Us government backed them in some kind of way , so they would have been liable also.

4. Malcolm X believed before his death that the CIA or FBI were following him.


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20368, RE: Conspiracy Theories....
Posted by guerilla_love, Fri Oct-27-00 09:23 AM
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>1. HIV, the human form of
>SIV a disease only known
>in animals until 1950's, was
>allegedly developed by the Wistar
>Institute here in Philadelphia.

what kinda sources have you heard that from? cuz i've heard it always only through word of mouth, so i always wondered...
20369, RE: Conspiracy Theories....
Posted by guest, Fri Oct-27-00 09:30 AM
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Philadelphia Inquirer did a story on this last month when the case was in the news. They have a web site , I'm not sure of the site name, I can check it out. They did note that this disease was exclusive to chimps or monkeys and it wasn't found in humans until 1950's around the same TIME and PLACE the vaccine was developed and distributed. If they exhume one of the original receipients (all of the people vaccinated are dead) of the vaccination , they will discover the truth.

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20370, RE: Conspiracy Theories....
Posted by guest, Mon Oct-30-00 12:05 PM
You're right. But before that, he had strong beliefs that it was tht Black Muslims (put up to it by Elijah Muhammed-because of Malcom's break from B. Muslims and the amount of power he had as a leader). He noticed he was constantly surrounded by the Muslims, they were following him-in hotels, airports, etc. I can't remember exactly, but I think it was prob during the last year of his life. But soon, he began to realize that a lot of the stuff that was happening seemed out of their power. He then thought it was the gov't. That is pretty effed up.
I wonder, where did the poster get the info that Malcolm was shot from the back??????? Was it a reliable source??????
When I read how he died, in the epilogue of "The Autobiography of Malcolm X," I couldn't help but cry--very, very sad. :'( When I think about what Malcolm would've done if he stayed alive a little longer, I think of great things, but I also think he might have been shoved into the same situation as Mumia.

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20371, Read This, its long
Posted by undaground_ish, Sat Oct-28-00 06:26 PM
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AIDS Developed as War Weapon?

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AIDS as a Weapon of War

by Dr. William Campbell Douglas, M.D.

Introduction & Comments by Jim Shults


INTRODUCTION AND COMMENTS

I must admit I am just a little gun shy of doing this
particular article. The reason is pretty obvious. Who in hell is
going to plead guilty to inventing the AIDS virus. Do I think it
was invented? Absolutely and without a doubt.

Firstly, where in hell has it been during the last 5000 years?
Why haven't we had exposure to it sooner, like in the last 50 years?

All of a sudden certain countries and entire continents are
coming down with the AIDS virus and no organization, body, group, or
whatever you care to call it has even a clue to the real source, and
it sure as hell isn't some monkey in Africa, that's for sure.

Over the last twenty years the genetic scientists have been
having a filed day inventing all kinds of new "life." Some have
even been granted patents for their creatures, which are usually
various types of bacteria, etc.

One patent was granted for the invention, or more accurately
put, creation, of a type of bacteria that eats oil, handy for oil
spills I guess. Now do you think for even a second that a virus
like the AIDS virus couldn't be created with all the genetic
engineering that is going on around the world?

There are certain types of bacteria that are living in test
tubes in labs around the world that if released would cause the end
of mankind in less than a year.

The real question is why we allow these bozos to play in labs,
making all kinds of new and artificial life in the first place. It
is going to backfire, in fact the author already feels it has,
through the deliberate release of the HIV (human immunodeficiency
virus); that's what AIDS is really called.

Something extraordinary happened last June (88'), in fact it
was so extraordinary that nothing like it has ever happened before.

The Surgeon General of the United States had mailed to every
mail box and address in the United States a brochure attempting to
explain AIDS, its danger, myths and means of transmission. The

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absolutely amazing thing about this was that it was done at
all.
Think of this for a minute: the U.S. Government mailed this
information to every address in America. That in itself should tell
all of us something that the media has somehow missed -- that this
is a population-destroying virus.

That really means that we all are in shit city, race fans, and
the Government know it. It is significant that they did the
mailing, and that should be very significant to anyone who knows
how our government works and what kind of very real panic those
who really know are experiencing.

When something like this brochure is made available as it was,
you can be very sure that the boys at the top, including the
scientific folks, are up against something they may not beat before
it has a very real chance of destroying at least half of mankind!

In fact, the fastest time even guessed at, for some kind of
beginning cure for some types of AIDS is at least five years and
that's thought to be impossible by medical people.

The author comes up with a very plausible scenario for how
rapidly AIDS has been distributed. (We are not blaming the
World Health Organization. In the author's scenario he simply
indicates that the WHO was used by others.)

Let's face it, we are in very real trouble. There are several
types of new AIDS viruses and more to be discovered, and who is to
say how the new ones, not yet mutated, will spread -- a sneeze
perhaps?

Our government and others around the world are not telling us
the truth about this stuff in order to protect our poor little dumb
minds. I suspect that if we know the truth, an enormous citizen
effort could be martialed worldwide which would probably shut down
the arms race for the time being.

Again, at the bottom line, we are in big trouble and "they"
know it....Many scientists predict we will lose half the world's
population (including U.S.) by the year 2000.

-- Jim Shults


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ABOUT THE AUTHOR

William Campbell Douglass, M.D.


Age: 62

Education: BS, University of Rochester, New York;
MD, University of Miami School of
Medicine; Graduate, U.S. Navy School of
Aviation and Space Medicine

Career: U.S. Navy, 7 years -- Flight Surgeon.
In practice for over 25 years. Former
state president, Florida, American
College of Emergency Physicians.
Former Editor of the Journal of the
Sarasota County Medical Society.
Consulting Editor, Health Freedom News.
On Board of Governors of the National
Health Federation. Regular speaker at
the National Health Federation meetings
around the United States. Appears
regularly on radio and television
programs on health.
Doctor of the
Year: National Health Federation, 1985.

Dr. Douglass has studied in England with Dr. Katharina Dalton,
discoverer of the premenstrual syndrome. He was one of the
first doctors in the United States to diagnose and treat PMS.
He opened his PMS Clinic in 1981.


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AIDS as a Weapon of War

William Campbell Douglass, M.D.

The great powers renounced chemical and biological warfare 20
years ago -- but kept right on experimenting. The germ warfare
experiments on Seventh Day Adventist soldiers,

1) the Tuskeegee syphilis experiments on prisoners,
2) the San Francisco Bay attack by the U.S. Army using
serratia marcescens bacteria,
3) the New York City subway germ attack
4 and many other experiments on humans, largely unknown to
the victims, continue in the free world.

In Novosybirsk, at the Ivanofsky Institute and other Soviet
centers of biological warfare, you can be sure that similar
diabolical experiments on humans continue at a frantic pace.

The Soviet press, always masters of the half truth, accused
the U.S. Army of having engineered the AIDS virus in the biological
warfare laboratories at Fort Detrick, Maryland.

This was a clever psy-war ploy which, for a while anyway,
neutralized those of us who were saying essentially the same thing,
that the AIDS virus was probably created through recombinant genetic
engineering (the rearranging of genes between two or more species of
plants or animal) and/or serial passage: the growing of a virus in
a series of generations of tissue culture cells or live animals,
thus adapting the virus to a new species, using human tissue culture
cells in the top security labs at Fort Detrick.

People started accusing us of spreading the communist line, not
a comfortable position for a dedicated anti-communist like myself.

What the Soviet propagandists didn't say was that their agents
had been working in our top security biological warfare laboratories
for over 20 years.

In a burst of brotherly love they were invited in by President
Nixon. The astounded communist scientists from Russia, the Eastern
Bloc and Communist china, who had been trying to penetrate this
vital security area for 40 years, quickly accepted.

They have been snickering in their beakers ever since, while
they prepare for our demise.

"It's no secret that they are there," Dr. Carlton Gajdusek,
Nobel Prize winner, a top official at the Fort Detrick Army
laboratory in Maryland, said in Onmi Magazine (March 1986): "In
the facility I have a building where more good and loyal communist
scientists from the USSR and mainland China work, with full passkeys
to all the laboratories, than there are American. Even the Army's
infectious disease unit is loaded with foreign workers who are not
always friendly nationals."


This answer to an interview question refers to the high number
of Soviet bloc scientists in this U.S. facility who act as


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inspectors to ensure that we are not producing bacteriological
weapons in violation of treaties with the Soviets.

You can't put it more plainly than that. Even the Trojans
weren't that stupid: at least they didn't KNOW the Trojan horse
was full of soldiers.

When it became obvious to the Communist press that we were
getting the truth out about who was running things at Fort Detrick,
they completely reversed themselves and said it was all a mistake.
Everything was just fine at Fort Detrick.

To understand the enormity of our betrayal you must know about
the origin of the AIDS virus. The virologists of the world, the
sorcerers who brought us this ghastly plague, have a united front in
denying that the virus was laboratory-made from known, lethal animal
viruses.

The scientific party line is that a monkey in Africa with AIDS
bit a native on the butt. The native then went to town and gave it
to a prostitute who gave it to the local banker who gave it to his
wife and three girlfriends and what!

50 to 75 million people became infected with AIDS in Africa and
throughout the world. This is an entirely preposterous story, and
it is preposterous because:

1. The green velvet monkey of Africa doesn't get human AIDS. You
can't reproduce the disease in monkeys even by injecting AIDS
virus directly into them.

2. After injecting the virus into monkeys, you can't transmit it
to other monkeys, much less to humans.

3. Genetically, AIDS (HIV-1) is not even close to the monkey form
of immunodeficiency virus.
see: Seale, Dr. John J.,
Royal Society of Medicine, Sept. 1987,
Seale, Dr. John J.,
The Origin of AIDS -- International
Conference on AIDS, Cairo, March 1988.]

4. AIDS started not in the villages but in the cities of Africa,
where there are no wild monkeys.

5. The doubling time of AIDS infection being about 12 months, one
monkey biting one native and then spreading the disease would
have taken 20 years to reach a million cases. Seventy-five
million Africans became infected practically simultaneously.
At the same time, the disease became rampant in the U.S.,
Haiti and Brazil.

It is obvious that one monkey couldn't have done that (or one
homosexual, either). There had to be some sort of simultaneous
seeding process.

The only worldwide simultaneous seeding going on at the same
time was the smallpox vaccine program of the World Health
Organization (the WHO).
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The early epidemiology of the AIDS pandemic fits the smallpox
vaccination project of the WHO -- AND NOTHING ELSE -- with the
exception of the U.S., which we will examine subsequently.)

The AIDS virus was created in a laboratory by combining lethal
animal "retroviruses" in human cancer (HeLA) cell cultures. These
viruses have never before caused infection in man.

The "species barrier" has always been nature's way of keeping a
deadly virus from wiping out the entire animal kingdom, including
man. The myxoma virus of rabbits, for example, wiped out the rabbit
population of Europe, but man and other animals were not affected.

The sheep visna virus completely decimated the flocks of
Iceland, but no other animal was affected.

The virologists deny that the AIDS virus, HIV-1, is of animal
origin. I am sure that you see the paradox here. Aren't monkeys
animals?

They are also united in saying that it's not possible for the
virus to have been engineered in a laboratory. If it didn't come
from other animals and it didn't come from a laboratory, and they
now admit privately that the monkey couldn't have done it, then it
must have come out of thin air. That's a theological position and
hence beyond argument. It's certainly not scientific.

These scientists who have created this monstrous problem in
their sorcerer's retrovirology laboratories are constantly caught in
their own lies.

The line goes: "The AIDS virus could not have been engineered
in a laboratory because the technology wasn't available until
recently."

Icelandic scientists combined the sheep visna virus with human
tissue cells over 20 years ago. The technology has been refined in
recent years, but the basic process has been actively used in labs
all over the world for long before the AIDS virus made its dramatic
appearance.

But the scientists hold fast in their denial of culpability.
Professor William Jarrett said, when asked about the possibility of
AIDS arising from animal retroviruses, "That is like someone saying
babies come out of cabbages."5

Dr. Robert Gallo said that people who claim AIDS was
manufactured artificially are "either insane or communists."6

Dr. Luis Montagnier, the discoverer of the AIDS virus, said,
"In 1970 there was not enough knowledge in genetic engineering to
make such a virus starting from already existing viruses."7 (See
Icelandic experiments mentioned above.)

This tower of lies must eventually fall of its own weight.
Then what? Where do we look for a solution? Certainly not from
the people who caused the disaster.

But where? -- the Pentagon? The Pentagon is supporting

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research on biological warfare in over 100 federal and private
laboratories, including those at many prominent universities.8 Yet,
Neil Levitt, who worked for 17 years at the Army Infectious Disease
Institute, says, "It's a joke...there's no defense against these
kinds of organisms. And if you can't defend against something, then
why are we pouring more and more money in it? There's something
else going on that we don't know about."9

Some joke.

A short virology lesson will help you understand that AIDS is
indeed an animal virus and that it was laboratory-made as a weapon
of biological warfare against the free world.

A basic rule of virology is that if two viruses have the same
shape, design and size, then they are almost certainly the same
virus (a very simple and easy to understand rule).10

For example, this virus:

-----------
|==| ||| |
-----------

... a virus of bacteria (bugs have diseases, too), doesn't look
anything like this virus:

___________
/ \
/ ~~~~~~~ \
\ /
\___________/


... a virus of ticks that's transmitted to pigs, or this virus:

__________
____/ ~~~~ \
/ ______/
\________/

... which is found in horses.

The AIDS virus, which "couldn't have come from animal
viruses" is almost certainly a recombinant virus from fusing a
cattle virus, bovine leukemia virus:

=
*
=* *=

=* ++++ *=

=* *=
*
=




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...with sheep visna virus:

*
* *

* ==== *

* *
*



You combine the two in human tissue culture cells and you get bovine
visna virus:

=
*
=* *=

=* ==== *=

=* *=
*
=

... A VIRUS THAT HERETOFORE DID NOT EXIST -- a product of man,
engineered in a laboratory.

Now, if you isolate the AIDS virus from an infected human, it
looks like this:

=
*
=* *=

=* ==== *=

=* *=
*
=

It doesn't look like this (the tick virus):

__________
____/ ~~~~ \
/ ______/
\________/

... or this (the cattle virus):

=
*
=* *=

=* ++++ *=

=* *=
*
=


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It looks like THIS:

=
*
=* *=

=* ==== *=

=* *=
*
=

... the recombinant virus from cattle and sheep AND ITS CALLED
AIDS. You don't have to be a genius to understand this. Any
properly instructed 10-year-old can understand it ....

But, some alert reader will say, we don't give smallpox
vaccinations in the U.S., so how do you explain the simultaneous
outbreak of AIDS in Africa, Brazil and Haiti, where they did indeed
give the vaccine, and in the U.S., where they didn't give the
vaccine?

Simple. The homosexual community was used as a large group of
experimental animals through the hepatitis-B program. It didn't
take many infected homosexuals among the I.V. drug users to quickly
spread the disease among a large percentage of the addicts due to
the near certainly of infection through direct intravenous insertion
of the virus.

To understand the seeding of AIDS among homosexuals (and
eventually to the rest of us through bisexuals unless drastic action
is taken), you must know about a character with the strange name of
Wolf Szmuness. His life story will seem bizarre to you unless, like
me, you have a conspiratorial turn of mind.

Dr. Szmuness was a Polish Jew who supposedly ended up in a
Siberian labor camp during World War II. But after the war he
somehow became a privileged person, was sent to medical school in
Tomsk, Russia, and married a Russian woman. Hardly typical
treatment of an enemy of the Soviet state
Szmuness' biographer said that Wolf was always reluctant to
discuss "those dark years in Siberia." Maybe he wasn't in Siberia.
If he was, he certainly wasn't shoveling salt.

In 1959 the Soviet government "allowed" him to practice in
Poland in a public health capacity. Standard policy in all
Communist countries is never to allow all members of a family to
travel out of the country to the West at the same time.

This eliminates 98 percent of all defection attempts. I have
physician friends in Hungary, for example. He can go to a meeting
anywhere in the world if she stays home. She can go if he stays
home. They can both go if the children are left at home. But in
1969, the entire Szmuness family was allowed by communist Poland to
go to a medical meeting in Italy. At that time they "defected" and
moved to New York City.

WITH NO AMERICAN CREDENTIALS WHATSOEVER, he immediately got a

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job as a "lab technician" at the New York City Blood Center. Within
a very few years this Polish immigrant was GIVEN HIS OWN LAB, a
separate department of epidemiology was created for him at the blood
bank and he, like the chrysalis turning into a butterfly, changed
into a FULL PROFESSOR OF EPIDEMIOLOGY AT THE COLUMBIA MEDICAL
SCHOOL!

In six years this "lab tech" became a full professor AND THEN
WENT BACK TO MOSCOW for a scientific presentation and was received
as a dignitary, not a defector.

We tell you this amazing story because in retrospect it is
obvious that Wolf Szmuness was a carefully groomed ... agent,
planted here after years of preparation, to instigate biological
warfare against the American people.


Szmuness, with the full cooperation and financial support of
the U.S. Center for Disease Control and the National Institutes of
Health,11 masterminded the hepatitis-B vaccine experimental program
used on homosexual men.

He insisted that only young, promiscuous homosexuals be allowed
to participate in the experiment. The experiment started in New
York at the blood bank in November 1978.

THE EXPERIMENTAL VACCINE WAS PRODUCED in a government
supervised laboratory.12 The study was completed in October 1979.
Within 10 years, most of these young men would be dead or dying from
AIDS.

In 1980 the program was expanded to major cities all across the
U.S. In the fall of 1980 the first AIDS case was reported in San
Francisco. Eight years later most of the homosexuals in San
Francisco are infected, dead or dying.

Szmuness did not live to see the fruition of this larger
experiment. He died of cancer in 1982.

In 1986 Dr. Cladd Stevens, one of Szmuness's collaborators,
penned an astonishing report that did not make your local newspaper.

She reported that the majority of the homosexuals in the
experimental program were infected with the AIDS virus.13 The AIDS-
laced vaccine, through the bridge of bisexual men, now infects as
many as three million Americans. Mission accomplished.

AIDS was not the first germ warfare attack against Americans.

In the early '60s, millions of unsuspecting Americans took
either Salk injected polio vaccine or the live Sabin polio vaccine,
which was taken by mouth.

BOTH WERE LACED WITH S.V.-40, A CANCER-CAUSING MONKEY VIRUS.14

With an incubation period of 20 years, we are only now seeing
the grim results of this bio-attack against Americans, largely in
the form of brain tumors and leukemia.


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Salk didn't like the Sabin vaccine and Sabin didn't like the
Salk vaccine. I think they are both right. It is interesting to
note that polio was rapidly disappearing WITHOUT a vaccine (J. Trop.
Pediat, env. Child. Health 21, 11) ....

Our Soviet enemies not only instigated the AIDS epidemic
through clandestine agents within our government, but they now
control, through the World Health Organization, the AIDS policies of
the free world.

You are probably not aware that the international AIDS
prevention program of the World Health Organization (WHO) is run by
the Soviets.

You don't believe it? Call WHO and ask them who is in charge
in Europe. If you want to save your nickel I'll tell you. He's a
Russian named Bysencho and he operates out of Copenhagen....

The Soviets control the response to AIDS of the entire free
world at many levels, including the top. Dr. Sergei Litvinov,
the coordinator of all task forces on AIDS at the WHO, is a high
official in the Soviet Ministry of Health. Allegedly Litvinov
gave out the order to our scientists and medical organizations in
the western world not to discuss the real cause of the epidemic.

At a secret meeting (information supplied the author from a
confidential source) between the editors of Lancet, the highly
respected British medical publication, and a group of the leading
retrovirologists of the world, it was decided not to publish any
academic discussion about the possible artificial creation of the
AIDS virus in a laboratory.

They particularly agreed not to make any mention of world-
renowned biologist Isaac Farlane Bernet's published remarks that
molecular biology may get out of hand like atomic physics and be
used for evil purposes and "practical applications of molecular
biology to cancer research might be sinister."

Other medical journals such as Science and JAMA have
lockstepped with Lancet and put all references to the man-made
origins of AIDS down the memory hole.

Did Comrade Litvinov have a little talk with the
retrovirologists? They, of course, wouldn't need any encouragement
from the Soviet bosses to attempt a little coverup of their
own heinous crime, but Lancet, the British Medical Journal, and the
New England Journal of Medicine are another matter.

It took some powerful and sinister forces indeed to get these
respected publications to cover up the crime of the millennium.

The notable exception to this appalling censorship of mass
murder is Professor Harding Rains, Editor of the Journal of the
Royal Society of Medicine. Rains refers to "a conspiracy of
silence" covering the allegation that AIDS was man-made. I hope
Dr. Rains is watching his backside.

Dr. Zhores Medvedev, unlike Bysencho and Litvinov, supposedly
is a Russian exile. Medvedev operates out of London at the National

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Institute for Medical Research. He's a senior research scientist
who continues to communicate freely with his supposed enemies in the
Soviet biowarfare laboratories, but we lack the space to catalog all
the details .

Medvedev is spreading the disinformation that AIDS is rampant
in Russia due to the escape of the virus from a laboratory, a sort
of biological Chernobyl.

This tends to divert suspicion away from Litvinov, Szmuness and
the other reds that President Nixon allowed to penetrate our
biological warfare laboratories at Fort Detrick, Maryland.

Having the Soviets "control" the spread of AIDS in the West has
let to some interesting paradoxes. Our masters in the U.S. tell us
that there shall be absolutely no restrictions on travel between
various parts of the non-Communist world by persons who test
positive for AIDS.

Surgeon General C.E. Koop supports this Soviet policy of
biological suicide. (Are those the instructions he received when he
made his trip to Moscow, where the WHO has set up its main AIDS
research center?)

But, our Soviet masters in the WHO tell us, this open policy of
international travel does not apply to the communist bloc of
nations. If you or I were to visit Moscow and tested positive for
the AIDS virus, POW! -- out on the next plane!

If they stay clean through their immigration policies and we
die because of the immigration policies imposed on us through the
U.N.-controlled World "Health" Organization, who needs atomic bombs
for world conquest?

Cuba, Dr. John Seale informs me, has a strict asylum system for
the AIDS-infected. When their troops come back from "liberating"
Africans, they are tested as they get off the boat.

If tested positive the soldier goes directly to hell --
euphemistically called a sanitarium. He can visit his family
occasionally, but only in the presence of a commissar called a
"health official (no hanky-panky).

Unless the West gets its act together and closes down the U.N.
genocide division called the WHO, freedom and decency will disappear
from planet Earth for a thousand years. But the problem goes much
deeper.

How do you close down the U.S. government laboratories such as
the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the National Institute of
Health (NIH) and the Fort Detrick bio-warfare lab when the
perpetrators of the crime are in control at all levels?

I don't know the answer. *****

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1 Project Whitecoat, to be published in Health Freedom News,
P.O. Box 688, Monrovia CA 91016/Subscription $20.00 per year.

2 Bad Blood, J.H. Jones, MacMillan, NY, 1982.

3 Common Cause Magazine, Jan./Feb. 1988.

4 First aids Report, March/April 1988.

5 Private communication, John Seale, M.D., 1988

6 Ibid.

7 First International Conference on the Global Impact of aids,
London, March 8-10, 1988.

8 New Scientist, London, 5/19/88.

9 Science News, 133:100, 2/13/88.

10 Joklik, Virology, 2nd edition, pp. 36 ff.

11 AIDS and the Doctors of Death, Cantwell, Aries Rising Press,
Los Angeles,p.76.

12 Ibid.

13 Ibid.
14 Salk/Sabin s.v.-40 Proc. Nat'l Acad. Sci., vol. 77, #8,
p. 4861, and Atlantic Monthly, 2/76.

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20372, One More, Martin Luther King Jr. Assassination
Posted by undaground_ish, Sat Oct-28-00 06:40 PM
Also check out http://www.parascope.com/mx/luther1.htm



There are numerous
links between the FBI
and the assassination
of Martin Luther King.


6: The FBI and the
Death of MLK

The FBI had targeted King for surveillance, harassment and sabotage just as they had done to Malcolm X and countless other black activists during the civil rights struggle.

Most of this spying and subterfuge was carried out under COINTELPRO, the FBI's Counterintelligence Program. Legendary FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover, America's least attractive drag queen, once described King as "the most dangerous man in America, and a moral degenerate."

A few months before the assassination, Hoover distributed an internal memo at the FBI calling for King's "removal from the national scene." In April, Hoover approved the plan which led to King's switch to the Motel Lorraine.

One documented COINTELPRO caper involved surveillance of King's alleged "sexual escapades." The tapes of these supposed escapades were later used in an attempt to blackmail King into committing suicide. Your tax dollars at work.

Cartha Deloach, the man in charge of the FBI's surveillance and harassment of King, was also put in charge of the investigation which indicted James Earl Ray and concluded that he acted as a lone nut.

The Memphis city official who ordered the relocation of the two black firemen and black police officer Edward Redditt on the day of the assassination was an ex-FBI agent and former associate of Hoover.

Frank Holloman, the Memphis Public Safety Director who had military guests on the afternoon of April 4, was a retired 25-year veteran of the FBI, who worked as head of the Memphis field office from 1959 to 1964. He had also served as J. Edgar Hoover's appointments secretary and was in charge of personnel in Hoover's office.

After the assassination, using taxpayer money, the FBI footed $30,000 in bar tabs for Charles Stephens. (Them's 1968 dollars, too.) Floating in a sea of booze, Stephens changed his original descriptions of the assassin from an anonymous black man to James Earl Ray.

Was the FBI directly involved in King's assassination? They certainly dedicated a lot of manpower towards surveilling and harassing the man. Entire books have been written about the FBI's obsession with King.

It is quite likely that the FBI was involved with the cover-up -- and possibly the execution -- of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s assassination. Suffice it to say that in 1978, the House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded that there was a 95% probability that King was killed by a conspiracy. However, the House Select Committee also concluded that "James Ray fired one shot at Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.; the shot killed King."

After the House Select Committee released its Final Report in 1979, Committee Chairman Louis Stokes (D-Ohio) and Chief Counsel G. Robert Blakey ordered that all of the committee's backup records, documents, unpublished transcripts, and investigative data be locked up for fifty years -- only to be released long after the witnesses and assassins are all dead.

In light of the masses of information which have developed regarding the King assassination, the "official" story just doesn't hold together. But exactly who pulled the trigger on the man who dreamed that one day his children would live in a nation where they would be judged by the content of their character, and not the color of their skin?

We may never know the answer to that question. And we can thank the FBI, at least in part, for that.

For more information on the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., see the bibliography included with this report.

(c) 1996 ParaScope, Inc.

20373, RE: Conspiracy Theories....
Posted by guest, Sun Oct-29-00 02:35 PM
Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper.
this book is some scary shiite.
read it.
peace



20374, Theory Number 2
Posted by janey, Mon Oct-30-00 12:08 PM
I lived in LA most of my life and I can tell you that silent helicopters don't exist. If only they did. My sleep would have been a lot better in those days.

Peace.
20375, The REAL Conspiracy!
Posted by Bambu, Tue Oct-31-00 12:01 PM
Frosted Flakes: "They're Greeeeaaat!"
Cocoa Puffs: "Coocoo for Cocoa Puffs!"
Hmmmmmmm?

White Cake: Angel's food
Black Cake: Devil's food
Hmmmmmmm?

Green Olives: Jar
Black Olives: Can
Hmmmmmmm? No window for the black olives, huh?

White Chocolate: taste like chocolate
Chocolate: IS chocolate
What was wrong with the brown chocolate that made them feel the need to make it white? Hmmmmm?

Duke: beret
Destro: silver head
Is it just me, or did Destro remind you of a black man with anxiety problems? Hmmmmm? Why did they feel the need to cover his head?

"...Shelter, Teach, Show, and Protect the Children..."
20376, solar energy..
Posted by guest, Thu Nov-02-00 04:37 AM

always wondered what's up with solar energy and such..that technology is old as hell but never really took off, why? I know corporate control tentacles reach ever-further but damn, forget even going green you'd have thought people in sunnier climes would want to save the green on their water heating bills..what do roof-top solar panels hurt the common man?
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