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20307, RE: You gotta take that up with george
Posted by Zesi, Tue Nov-14-00 05:46 AM
>>The dismantling of affirmative action is
>>a reality...
>>california, maybe?
>see what i mean.

People voted on that, remember?

>>>how is the price of not
>>>voting any different from the
>>>price of voting- do voters
>>>get different rights. do voters
>>>get to live in different
>>>parts of the country?
>>Not voting can mean the difference
>>between electing bad candidate and
>>a worse one. You think
>>black people in Louisiana woulda
>>been happy with David Duke
>>as their governor? I don't
>>think so.
>you're avoiding the question- how does
>the price differ for the
>non voter- how is there
>situation any different from the
>person who voted? If David
>Duke had been elected would
>the fact that they didnt
>vote for him save them
>any trouble?

I did answer the question. You could have a close election (and I remember david duke getting a lot of votes), and if u dont come out, the worse candidate wins.
If they had voted against him, maybe they wouldn't have a KKK leader kickin their behind. That's the thing.

>>>CMON ZESI- how are you not
>>>under the whim of whoever
>>>is in charge of the
>>Because voting still carries some weight.
>>Remember the Social Security example?
>>Don't wanna bring it up
>>again. And we're less under
>>the control of the government
>>than under the control of
>>corporate interest.
>>Which is a bigger machine than
>>government could ever be (unless
>>the government took over the
>>private sector...highly unlikely.)
>still not answering the question- remember
>the crack import example- the
>story of freeway rick? who
>are you not under the
>whim of the government when
>most of their activity takes
>place without your consent or
>even your knowledge?

I'm not totally under its whim. They don't make me go places, see people, love people, do things, believe things, make sure I only have so many children, write things they want me to write...etc.
Most of their activity, Koala, not all.

>>So Koala, why don't you move?
>find me a place that hasnt
>been threatened or ruined by
>this system and Ill think
>about it

Not a one. But some of them have better systems.
You'd just have to get through immigration.

>>Planning a revolution?
>what Im telling you is that
>many plans are already in
>effect- I dont need to
>plan one I just need
>to join one. This extends
>to all people.

Revolution is a much harder concept than it was years ago.
Multinational corporations have their finger in every government they're in (and often they're in the US). I'm a pessimist, and don't see how revolution would work unless you had a nuclear weapon pointed to Capitol Hill (which means you'd radiate the people of Chocolate City). Revolution still could work.

I'm not waiting for a revolution.
It's been what...35 years since the BPP started...70 (or is it 80?) years since Garvey...haven't seen anything appear on the horizon with that type of mobilization.


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