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Posted by Expertise, Thu Nov-09-00 04:13 AM
>On discussing the states that "Bush
>took" you are missing a
>key understanding in your logic.
> Bush got electoral votes,
>and not many of them.
> The popular vote i.e.
>the actual people's voices, went
>to Gore. The electoral
>voters are supposed to go
>with the popular majority, but
>they are not required to
>by every state. some
>get fines, few jail time,
>but many no consequence.
Wrong. Yours is flawed because you're looking at the national popular vote as a whole and not the popular vote of the states seperately. Name me one state that went against the grain (or will do so) of the popular count of their individual state.
(However, to put this into proper perspective, they DON'T have to go with the popular vote. And they don't meet in DC until January 6th. You got to feel sorry for Florida's electives, especially the Republican ones, because they will have tremendous pressure to change their vote to give the election to Al Gore. All in all, we WON'T be sure who will be president for certain until the 6th.)
>Also who do you think
>become electoral voters? We'll
>make it even more general...
>from what Socio-Economic class do
>you think the electoral college
>voters come from. ... interesting
What does that got to do with it?
>The popular vote this year meant
>a lot especially when you
>look at how many people
>actually came out to vote.
> 10% of the voters
>were black which is huge
>considering that only 12 %
>of americans are black!
Once again, your logic is flawed. 10% of anything is not necessarily a good thing. When black participation is like maybe 20% or so, then we can talk.
Not to mention, necessarily when the election turnout is high, that usually favors Democrats. However, Gore BARELY led in the popular vote, which is bad because all pundits are saying Gore got a whopping 90% of the black vote. That speaks volumes, I feel, that people want to cut down on expanding government.
>And as for the corruptness going
>on in Florida (which is
>VERY, VERY REAL) it is
>going on everywhere. Florida
>is just under the mic
>right now because of the
>way the states turned in
>their votes. But this
>shit is happening everywhere.
>Listen to the radio stations...
>there is so much more
>than meets the eye here.
It's on both sides, but you don't hear about them. The extra ballots were found in counties that usually vote Democratic. The ballots in Palm Beach County were made by a county Democratic Party official (I've seen a replica of the ballot. You have to be a complete IDIOT to vote Buchanan when intending to vote for Gore.), not to mention the Democratic Party approved the ballot beforehand.
Either way, it's guaranteed that the Socialist Democratic Party will whine and complain and say Bush cheated, either illegally though some kind of voter fraud in Florida or through legally though the Electoral College (don't be surprised if the motion for a new constitutional amendment takes form in the near future.). All in all, everyone is going to believe what they want to believe.
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship." - Alexander Tyler
"In general the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to the other." -Voltaire
"The assumption that spending more of the taxpayer's money will make things better has survived all kinds of evidence that it has made things worse. The black family- which survived slavery, discrimination, poverty, wars and depressions- began to come apart as the federal government moved in with its well-financed programs to "help." - Thomas Sowell
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Some of you still think America's a
democracy. Lemme break it down for
* Democracy: Three wolves and a sheep
vote on the dinner menu.
* Democratically Elected Republic: Three
wolves and 2 sheep vote on which sheep's
* Constitutional Republic: The eating of
mutton is forbidden by law, and the
sheep are armed.
The United States is a CONSTITUTIONAL
REPUBLIC. Not a democracy.
Yes....I am a PROUD Black Libertarian Conservative.