>None... We could debate and talk
>about 4oo years here and
>there but it won't change
>things, It won't change the
>fact shit is fucked. We've
>been looking at stuff the
>same way for 50+ years
>and our situation worsens...

If you honestly think black people are in a worse position in 2001 than 1951, I question your understanding of history and your understanding of what the word "worse" means. In most measurable aspects (life expectancy, family income, employment, civil rights enforcement, etc), black life is better now than in 1951.

>Our problems deal with broken Human
>spirits, this a human phenomenon
>not a racial one, why
>deal in their world at
>all.

how can there be a "their" if you do not recognize racial difference? who would "they" be absent racial categorization?

> I dont' recognize any
>of Babylon's constructs.
>As far as all you cats
>who romanticize the struggle, if
>the 60-70's were ALL THAT
>why are we worse off
>now

how do you define "worst off"?

, cuz half them niggas
>were full of shit! Ego-maniac,
>sexists assholes, who were more
>worried about being a revoluationary
>then being revolutionary. you can
>blame the FBI and cointelpro
>and all that stuff and
>yes they did play a
>part in the shit but
>many of those cats were
>off point.

where are the contemporary leaders that rival them in effectiveness? who is "on point"?

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit

http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/general1/9519.html#1 - funny shit....I like this guy...

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/bands/in_shallah.shtml
Check out my hip-hop brethren In Shallah
(Arabic for "God's will"); b-boy
conscious soul music for the world to
uprock to...

Imagine if Aceyalone was the
frontman for The Doors and you have
Miscellaneous Flux. Their four song
debut EP is on sale now. Want to hear an
MP3 to taste a sample? E-mail
alanpage@starpower.net

(I said Ghostface before, but I think
Aceyalone is a better comparison...maybe
the delivery of Ghost and the lyrics of
Acey...ah, hell, just listen)

"the world may seem to cause you pain.
and yet the world, as causeless, has no
power to cause. as an effect, it cannot
make effects. as an illusion, it is what
you wish" denis johnson, "already dead"