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18985, RE: okay how about this.
Posted by NSZ, Sun Jan-14-01 04:15 PM
>criminal law/religious law, whatever you wanna
>call it, puts the business
>of REVENGE in the hands
>of a power higher than
>yourself.

Ideally, it's a lot more than revenge.

>vengeance is mine sayeth the lord
>according to God's law... and
>in this case of man's
>law, vengeance belongs to to
>criminal justice system..

vengence among other things

> personally i am satisfied with
>taking away a person's freedom
>for a specific amount of
>time for crimes committed.. so
>if my words led you
>to believe that i would
>be okay with a car
>theif having his car stolen
>as punishment, or enslavement of
>white people as punishment for
>the enslavement of black people
>(although if there was a
>way to reanimate actual slave
>OWNERS and do this, i
>would support it).. my personal
>exception to this is in
>the case of cold-blooded murder..cold-blooded
>murder should be punishable by
>death. i believe that..

Aiight.. I'll tell you the fallacies I see in that exception

>i am not talking about those
>who are wrongfully convicted of
>this crime.. i am saying..
>cold-blooded murderers should be put
>to death. you may argue
>that this makes me a
>murderer, too..but does that make
>correctional officers and wardens kidnappers?
>does it make them sweatshop
>overlords because inmates are made
>to work for peanuts daily?
>what do we do with
>criminals, then.. send them to
>camp? vacation?

Correctional officers and wardens aren't kidnappers because they didn't actually kidnap anybody.. sweatshop overlords? yeah. Does the law kidnap 'criminals'? Yep.. but the reasoning behind the kidnapping is a lot stronger than the reasoning behind the murdering. This 'kidnapping' occurs as ways of prevention, deterrents, rehabilitation, as well as this idea of 'revenge'. Executions eliminate all of these implications except revenge.. and even if you find murder ethical, the justice system has far too many flaws to run an agenda of death that only exists for revenge


'Not merely a concrete test of the underlying principles of the great republic is the Negro Problem, and the spiritual striving of the freedmen's sons is the travail of souls whose burden is almost beyond the measure of their strength, but the name of this land of their fathers' fathers, and in the name of human opportunity'-- W.E.B. Du Bois