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Posted by FireBrand, Sun Apr-18-04 12:13 PM
about? Why this tone? why are you acting in this manner? I have already agreed that Nelly's particular infection of European values is deprived and harmful to our community. I agree that action need to be taken, I just questioned the WAY action was taken.
Why can't you understand that?
>>>so during the 60's should black folks have just sat in
>>>meetings in secret and tried to solve problems in the
>>>privacy of our own homes?
>>No, that is not what I said. I said the leaders met to
>>discuss a plan of action. Action for the sake of inaction
>>isn't always the best way.
>-action for the sake of inaction!? uhmmm what the FUCK are
>you talken about...and im sure somebody "sat down" and
>decided to boycott NELLY.
Action just to react is what I meant to say, but that should have been obvious I would think...I'm sure they did, but like I said before if they didn't think it out then they dropped the ball as quoted here:
"So there wasn't another way? mean every college protest I've seen has had a council of some sort- in the Dubois sense the best and brightest got together and contemplated, then in the more Afrikan sense we went ahead and talked as a people about it with all who would attend.
If this is the best they could come up with, so be it. IF not. They dropped the ball."--FIREBRAND EARLIER IN THIS POST.
KEY PHRASE: If this is the best they could come up with, so be it. IF not. They dropped the ball.
>>>if we did so, that would have been
>>>showing RESPECT for the KKK and the american govt (well,
>>>lets not show up da white man in public!), even though they
>>>were disrespecting US in public...
>>If that is the only result you can glean for coming up with
>>an appropriate action plan...I don't know what to say.
>-riddle me this, riddle me that
What is THAT supposed to mean ...how does showing the white man up in public have ANYTHING to do with what I said. If you knew my politics, this wouldn't even be a question you would ask.
I am insulted. Fuck a cracka. All I care about is the well being of Afrikans, and more specifically my family and Jamaicans. People like Nelly have a function. They serve as a indicator of the levels of yurugu within us, and how far we have walked from the way, our way in the Armah sense.
>>Yes. In fact let me give you an example- just for
>>perspective. My sophomore year at Georgia Southern there
>>was an uproar. The editor of our school paper said that
>>Black History month should be done away with. So, instead
>>of planning...I, and some like minded friends ran to the
>>'brary and typed a response, and made like 1000 copies and
>>placed them all over campus. didn't even spell check, but
>>We then had a meeting. I was a DJ, so I publicized this
>>meeting. This official meeting was after a smaller meeting
>>of the known Black Activists on campus. The second
>>meeting had all the Black social groups, greeks,
>>organizations, etc. We made a plan, took it to a greater
>>group of all of our supporters and put our plan of action
>>into effect including: media coverage, demands, protest
>>route, inclement weather provisions, signs, etc...
>>The shit got great media coverage in Savannah, locally on
>>Radio, college radio and newspapers. Might have even gotten
>>play in ATL...I don't know. We still didn't cover all the
>>bases though. Nevertheless...the shit went off OK. If we
>>waited one more day we could have come with a MORE powerful
>>agenda and made lasting change.
>>Instead...ole boy kept his job, and all we got was like a
>>sensitivity training course for on campus media- something
>>that wasn't even observed.
>>No teeth because of poor planning.
>- no teeth because you all are ignorant...lets flip it: lets
>say a BLACK writer wrote up an article that was being
>critical of "presidents day" (after all, that one article at
>this college would not stop black history month it was just
>his opinion) and then all the right wing conservatives on
>campus decided to organize a "boycott"...first of all do u
>see how rediculous it is lookin @ it from the other sidE?
>and secondly, how far would their "boycott" go knowing full
>well that mans article in the paper is protected by the 1st
Well, you didn't ask why we marched. I was just giving you the specifics of our organization. The man was also either a senator, or student body officer while a ranking member of the College Republicans. What he had to say carried weight in ways we thought were unfair.
We wanted aan op-ed. Not granted. We wanted a story in the Eagle which is an unoffical school paper. Not granted.
Now, SOME wwere crying for shit that didn't make sense cus they didn't come to the meetings, and in the end the administration used their stances as reasons to keep him on by ignoring OUR requests.
Moreover, this is a SCHOOL paper. Not a private paper that one PAYS for. Our tuition DOLLARS pay for the paper- another argument we brought forth. IF our dollars pay for that shit, the sensitive issues should be cleared with fair and balanced editorial and news pages...shit.
I can see how you would think that shit tho...
>>to me it seems like u are COOL with
>>>nelly sliding his credit card down the ass of a black woman,
>>>yet when spelman wants to BOYCOTT his ass to let HIM and
>>>AMERICA know that they aint havin it, you have a problem
>>No, maybe you didn't read what I said. I have NO problem
>>with that. Did you read what I said?
>-yeah i read what u said, and you dont agree with the
>METHODS they went about boycotting nelly...hell, i would
>have liked to see them LET nelly perform, and THEN slice
>that nigga up when he got offstage and stab a knife through
>his chest with a note attached to it "TIP DRILL"...
>>Fuck it. Responding is pointless. You are just str8 running
>>off at the mouth about some bullshit. You obviously didn't
>>read what I said or at least comprehend.
>>Either that, or you are crazy...perhaps stupid.
>-HAHAHAAA!!! this nigga. after reading that 3 paragraph long
>explenation of your failed attempt at being a wanna be
>revolutionary/dr king, i can now see the root of where your
>beef lies with this "boycott": IT WAS SUCCESSFULL!! did
>nelly perform? nope. did spelmans way of doing things work?
>yup. did yours? nope. OOPS!
Well, you are certainly taking a peculiar angle at your observation. We were very successful. Heinsight being 20/20 we didn't get what I think we COULD have gotten, but at the time we were very satisfied. We THOUGHT he was getting fired, but he was able to fight that and stayed in. We THOUGHT the training would be mandatory...it isn't.
Why would you take such a hate filled stance? Why? What exactly is your problem?
And no, only time will tell if Spelman's jawn worked. If another artist comes to campus with a similar catalouge- IT DID NOT WORK. THE MESSAGE WAS NOT SENT CLEARLY.
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