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18575, RE: one point.
Posted by pocahontas, Thu Feb-15-01 04:25 PM
>>- The fact that Bill Gates
>>has enough money to buy
>>and sell most of the
>>Western hemisphere makes me want
>>to vomit. Especially when
>>I know that his gross
>>wealth necessitates someone else's gross
>>poverty. Capitalism demands that
>>it does.
>
>The vast majority of Gate's wealth
>is in stocks and bonds,
>or other investment type stuff.
> How does his wealth
>necessarily cause someone else's poverty.


If you don't understand the fundamental economic principle that resources are scarce, and as such, any such grossly disproportionate distribution of wealth has the consequence of a gross absence of wealth somewhere else on the graph, then I don't know what else I can say...


>>- Every child deserves a decent
>>education. A capitalist model
>>(i.e. vouchers) denies that and
>>states that the best schools
>>should only be for the
>>best students, and the children
>>who are left behind are
>>SOL.
>
>That's how most socialist/democratic countries in
>Europe do it. The
>slow learners don't get into
>the best schools.

Yeah, Europe also did that whole using humans as capital thing...got analysis?

Europeans also have all types of classist, racist shit popping off in their societies, so I don't expect their programs and philosophies to be totally on point. However, European programs also ensure that all students get some type of education in terms of learning a skill that can be utilized. Some kids are meant to be academics, others want to be carpenters. The Euro school system makes sure that every child has some type of skill before he or she is tossed into the workforce and forced to occupy service industry jobs only, unlike here, and the statification would only get worse with vouchers.

>Someone who teaches math and history,
>vs someone who can save
>my life?

Where do doctors and lawyers come from? Who teaches and inspires them? Believe me, a teacher can save a life and are damn near at the base of our enlightened society, check all those Greek philosophers (Aristotle, etc.), they agree. (Of course we know that the Greeks stole all their shit from us, right?)

>>- Capitalism has failed Africans around
>>the world.
>
>See thread on black capitalists.

Been there, done that, don't agree.

>I think African American's especially, need
>to embrace capitalism and do
>for self. Both Martin
>and Malcolm agreed with that.

But how do we embrace a system we didn't invent, that was developed to benefit those who are distinctly NOT us, whose structures were built on our backs. We can't afford to move around within the system, the whole game's got to be reset if we REALLY want freedom.
>
>
>peace
>k. orr

peace
poca