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18339, can't agree w/ some of this
Posted by LexM, Wed Feb-21-01 07:56 AM
>>Can someone please explain to me
>>why Black people are Christians?
>
>Because they feel the principles of
>the Bible are true and
>contain valuable relevence to thier
>spiritual needs/beleifs.

true...but over time, we have metamorphasized the faith in several ways to do just that. Check the practices of some independent African Christian churches, sects like the AME church and the Shrine of the Black Madonna (is that the right title?)


>>How can you be a
>>religion that murdered and enslaved
>>you?
>
>The religion had nothing to do
>with the murdering or enslaving
>of Africans. People who acted
>in ingnorance were to blame
>for enslaving my ancestors. They
>were not lead by the
>church or protestant movement to
>do what they unjustly did.

They were led by the church. Many many many reverends and church leaders pointed out passages to enforce the ideology and practice of slavery. Yes, there were many who did just the opposite, but you can't say that it didn't come from the mouths of Christian leaders of the time.



>>Christians robbed the Afrikan
>>of her language, of her
>>Gods, of her culture, of
>>her human dignity.
>
>Christianity was not forced on Africans.
>If you remember we were
>brought here as slaves and
>to work. The white man
>could have cared less what
>religion we embraced. They wouldn't
>have forced the Bible on
>them if anything which embraces
>harmony among all people.

Oh they cared. If they didn't, then Africans would have been allowed to beat drums to communicate. They would not have had to hide their Gods behind Catholic saints. They would have learned to write down their religious tenets in the language of the New World. Shit like that. If you've read anything about the "black codes" or any other laws implemented around religious services and gatherings of slaves, then you would know this to be completely untrue. Slaveowners cared what religion they practiced. They cared a great deal.


>>Christianity was
>>forced on the Afrikan by
>>the primitive white race, please
>>explain to me how any
>>person of Afrikan decent can
>>honor this blasphemic religion.
>
>
>Who is Christianity blasphemic to? Have
>you completely dismissed the idea
>that once African were here
>and exposed to Christianity they
>made a chioce to take
>up the religion.

It wasn't always a choice. They were (or at the very least pretended) to be Christian or they were punished.


>Earlier you
>said that they were stripped
>of thier culture and what
>not. While agree with you
>on that you make it
>seem like that because they
>were taken from thier home
>they didn't get a chance
>to find a spirituality that
>was comfortable for them. Isn't
>that what matters most?

yes, that is what matters, but if you look at the history of the Black church in America, there was always something missing from the ideals of "White" (for lack of a better term) Christianity that caused Black folk to form their own centers of worship and cultural expressions within those centers.

maybe u know all this and just didn't express it, but I just had to drop my two cents.

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