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17807, RE: Curious???
Posted by Expertise, Wed Feb-28-01 08:12 AM
>This is off the discussion...
>Libertarian seem to align themselves with
>the GOP more than Democrats...

>What are most Libertarian stance on
>social issues..???
>What are the Libertarian stances on
>economic issues?????

*LOL* You guys amuse me. It's funny how you OkaySocialists, knowing you're dead wrong on an issue, start to take things personally and try to "x-ray" and expose someone that doesn't believe in the things you believe. Despite the contrast in issues and views, I have never tried to call out someone personally...

Having said that, the reason why Libertarians agree with Republicans more than Democrats is that Republicans simply believe in freedom more than Democrats....well, at least in rhetoric, anyways. Republicans talk about shrinking the size of government, in terms of economic policy and government intervention, as Libertarians believe.

Democrats are nothing but tax-and-spend demogogues, and I'd bet that if you'd look into the past 60 years, from when Franklin Roosevelt came into power, I'd bet that there has never been a budget proposal that came from a Democratic House of Representatives or a Democratic president that actually asked for cuts on government spending. We simply believe that government shouldn't have a universal right to tax the citizens of the country, taking whatever they want and spending whatever they want without any kind of limit or challenge. Furthermore, if it is absolutely necessary to use that revenue, whatever they do use should be done responsibly and carefully, using the money to it's fullest potential.

It is becoming obvious that Congress, whether it's Democrats or Republicans, do not understand the idea of fiscal responsibility. Even with Bush's speech in front of Congress his proposals will raise next year's budget up by 4%. Considering that Congress is already spending more than $4 trillion on this budget, that's a huge rise. Bush, at least from the address to the nation Tues night, never mentioned once about cutting funds or cutting programs. As I said earlier, Republicans talk about it, BUT they never do it, and there is no excuse for them now, considering they have majorities in both Houses of Congress and the presidency.

As far as social issues are concerned, it's more of an even matter, as we straddle the fence between the left and the right on certain issues. For example, I'm sure every Libertarian would criticize the impending bill that the Republicans proposed in the Virginia Senate making it mandatory for children to say the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools. On the other side, I am definitely opposed to the City of San Francisco, as in how they are now allowing transgenders and homosexuals to use city funds (ie city taxpayers' money) to get them sex change operations. You see, whatever is closer to individual freedom and liberty we support it, no matter what side it is on.

>Consevative meaning what????

Conservative meaning to preserve the right of life, liberty, and property to every individual.

>As a Black male do you
>personally feel any allegiance to
>the Afrikan Community and if
>you do what should be
>the strategy for improving the
>circumstances of Afrikans here in
>America?????

Allegiance? I personally feel no allegiance to anyone. Other Libertarians, maybe. The ideas that I bring here are simply philosophical views that I feel would work in the best interests of everyone, whether black, white, or whomever.

As far as improving circumstances for African-Americans the idea is simple: Economic empowerment.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship." - Alexander Tyler

"In general the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to the other." -Voltaire

"The assumption that spending more of the taxpayer's money will make things better has survived all kinds of evidence that it has made things worse. The black family- which survived slavery, discrimination, poverty, wars and depressions- began to come apart as the federal government moved in with its well-financed programs to "help." - Thomas Sowell

"Life is insensitive, and the truth can be highly offensive. To hide from either is to hide from the reality of life. Take pride in the fact that I am an equal opportunity offender. You today, someone else tomorrow. You have no constitutional right not to be offended." - Neal Boortz

Some of you still think America's a
democracy. Lemme break it down for
ya...

* Democracy:  Three wolves and a sheep
vote on the dinner menu.
* Democratically Elected Republic: Three
wolves and 2 sheep vote on which sheep's
for dinner. 
* Constitutional Republic: The eating of
mutton is forbidden by law, and the
sheep are armed.

The United States is a CONSTITUTIONAL
REPUBLIC. Not a democracy.

Yes....I am a PROUD Black Libertarian Conservative.