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16607, RE: Former Vegetarian
Posted by guest, Thu Mar-22-01 11:16 AM
>No, you made some assumptions there.
>I drink soy milk because
>it is the same animal
>that is being tortured by
>the meat industry that is
>giving the milk. (See my
>post above.) Muslims believe that
>the milk of cows is
>a blessing, and I believe
>this too. Milk of animals
>provides benefits, if it is
>consumed in a balance way
>just like meat. If too
>much milk is consumed then
>it becomes unhealthy. Just as
>if too much fruit, vegetables,
>or grains are consumed. Animals
>have rights in Islam. Muslims
>do not have the same
>view that mankind has dominion
>or ownership over animals, or
>any creation for that matter.
>Only Allah is the Owner.
>Islam teaches a view of
>participation with nature. This includes
>being able to use animals
>for purposes such as traveling,
>protection of land and home,
>guides for the blind, farming,
>and for food. This isn't
>dominion, this is participation, because
>the animals have rights over
>man. They have the right
>to be treated with kindness
>and compassion and not to
>be abused or tortured. If
>it was a dominion relationship,
>then the animals would have
>no rights and it would
>not be participatory. Also, it
>is believed by Muslims that
>on the Day of Judgement
>an animal that is harmed,
>mistreated, or killed for an
>unjust reason by someone will
>testify against that person before
>Allah.
>
>You must understand that suffering is
>a part of life. It
>is just as much a
>law of the universe as
>gravity. The opposite of suffering
>is of course pleasure and
>this is the balance of
>this temporary life. Whether or
>not you, or the entire
>human population, is Vegan, things
>will still suffer.
>
>Read my post that is above
>in this subject where I
>talk about compassion.
>
>Yusuf Abdus-Salaam

it is certainly the case that suffering is a significant part of life and this must be accepted or else one is being entirely unrealistic, however there is that suffering that is inevitable, say a close friend or family member is hit by a bus, and there is suffering that is knowlingly caused, the first of these must be accepted and dealt with, however the second can be prevented, i myself have recently become buddhist, but i was vegan before i became buddhist (its respect for animals is part of what attracted me), once again, i do not mean to attack, esp religious beliefs, just want to open up a dialogue
peace