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16474, RE: For Real, this needs to stop!
Posted by abduhu, Tue Mar-27-01 10:35 AM
bismillah

>Although it may be a serious
>waste of time to ask
>this...

>BUT can this guy do anything
>other than copy and paste
>Islamic information from whatever site
>he is getting this stuff
>from?

yes he can. hes about to do it,......now.

>It's like the token christian woman
>on Politically Incorrect who can't
>even THINK without including a
>bible verse to simple questions
>like "What's your favorite movie"

no its not. its like providing the audience the proof of what your saying, so none of the "smartass" people (whoever they may be) can try to make him look stupid by saying that he made it up or he dont know what hes talkin about. besides, there are a lot of ppl who do the same thing, you just cant tell b/c theyve removed all headers, footers, author's names, links, etc..... he likes to leave that type of stuff, so ppl wont:
1. think he just making it up, and
2.think that they are just his ideas and opinions, and not the ideas and opinions of the most learned muslims to ever exist (if your referring to his islamic posts and not his secular ones:)).

copying and pasting is a good thing. unless your TRYING to write a rap :)

>If he were separated from the
>information on the internet do
>you guys think he'd actually
>be able to respond?

i think he would. he's just not a really, really fast typist like some of you guys are. and by the time he makes his point, a million and one things are said. he could just drop one-liners, but he could not validate his point w/ one-liners when several-liners are coming at him.

Or
>is it just me who
>thinks he's just hacking up
>new stuff he's learning in
>books/online after incorporating it into
>his already held beliefs.

probably not. he knows of at LEAST 2 others besides yourself. they probably will post their takes on your questions by the time he finishes his "original" and not "copied/pasted" post. or maybe not, who knows.

Then
>when someone does crush his
>statements he never responds!

now where/when did that happen to him? not saying he invinvcible or something. yeah,....he can get it too. btw,....there are several ?s that he left out there that noone answered, but he's not chasing after them, does he thinks hes won the arguement. but he most certainly will bring them up again in the future.


>I don't have the time, But
>if someone can fine "ONE"
>fallacy in the whole of
>these teachings he keeps posting
>up, I'd be grateful.

if you scrutinize solarus' posts, like you do his, youll probably find a whole slew of "fallacies". dont mean they are correct, though.

Dude,
>Come original and stop copying/pasting
>everything that supports your claims.

hmm, sounds good. he'll be sure to try and do that. but its so hard for him, being a slow typist and all. besides, he would rather post something that SUPPORTS "his" claims, than to just post "his" claims alone. the copied and pasted stuff helps "his" point when ppl are not accepting of what "he" says. like those "AT LEAST 2 PPL" he mentioned. and maybe YOU now. man, where have you been hiding all this time! just been lurking, huh? i understand.


>Oh, I forgot when someone
>gets to the core of
>that you hide under Allah's
>skirt.

Allah does not have a skirt. But Allah does have "kiraman katibeen". oh, sorry, you probably dont know arabic. geez, my mistake. "kiraman katibeen" are angels that record our actions and words, both good and bad..........like the statement you just made about Allah!!!

out.

p.s: as im sure youve noticed, his sig is a copy/paste job too!!!
and he knows you know all of that is just too much typing. besides, why sould he make things hard on himself. hes too smart for that. but hey, what do "I" know???


Allah says about Truth and Falsehood in The Qur'an:
21:18 Nay! We hurl The Truth against falsehood, and it knocks out it's brain, and behold, falsehood perishes! Ah! woe be to you for the false things you ascribe.

Allah says about Moses and Pharoah in The Qur'an:
10.075 Then after them sent We Moses and Aaron to Pharaoh and his chiefs with Our Signs. But they were arrogant: they were a people in sin.
10.076 When the Truth did come to them from Us, they said: "This is indeed evident sorcery!"
10.077 Said Moses: "Say ye (this) about the truth when it hath (actually) reached you? Is sorcery (like) this? But sorcerers will not prosper."
10.078 They said: "Hast thou come to us to turn us away from the ways we found our fathers following,- in order that thou and thy brother may have greatness in the land? But not we shall believe in you!"
10.079 Said Pharaoh: "Bring me every sorcerer well versed."
10.080 When the sorcerers came, Moses said to them: "Throw ye what ye (wish) to throw!"
10.081 When they had had their throw, Moses said: "What ye have brought is sorcery: Allah will surely make it of no effect: for Allah prospereth not the work of those who make mischief.
10.082 "And Allah by His words doth prove and establish His truth, however much the sinners may hate it!"
10.083 But none believed in Moses except some children of his people, because of the fear of Pharaoh and his chiefs, lest they should persecute them; and certainly Pharaoh was mighty on the earth and one who transgressed all bounds.
10.084 Moses said: "O my people! If ye do (really) believe in Allah, then in Him put your trust if ye submit (your will to His)."
10.085 They said: "In Allah do we put out trust. Our Lord! make us not a trial for those who practise oppression;
10.086 "And deliver us by Thy Mercy from those who reject (Thee)."
10.087 We inspired Moses and his brother with this Message: "Provide dwellings for your people in Egypt, make your dwellings into places of worship, and establish regular prayers: and give glad tidings to those who believe!"
10.088 Moses prayed: "Our Lord! Thou hast indeed bestowed on Pharaoh and his chiefs splendour and wealth in the life of the present, and so, Our Lord, they mislead (men) from Thy Path. Deface, our Lord, the features of their wealth, and send hardness to their hearts, so they will not believe until they see the grievous penalty."
10.089 Allah said: "Accepted is your prayer (O Moses and Aaron)! So stand ye straight, and follow not the path of those who know not."
10.090 We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: "I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam)."
10.091 (It was said to him): "Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)!
10.092 "This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!"
10.093 We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place, and provided for them sustenance of the best: it was after knowledge had been granted to them, that they fell into schisms. Verily Allah will judge between them as to the schisms amongst them, on the Day of Judgment.

subhakallahumma wabihamdika ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta astaghfiruka wa attuubu ilaika