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16391, RE: American Feelings on Arab Muslims and Christians
Posted by guest, Mon Mar-26-01 03:56 PM
>Show me where conquest of land
>by force is prohibited when
>the other side starts a
>military conflict with you.

First of all, Israel attacked Palestinians or Arab countries in all the Arab-Israeli wars except in 1973. "The other side" didn't start the conflict with Israel except once. In 1948, the Zionist terrorist forces went around taking over land that was supposed to become part of Palestine, and Deir Yassin was one of the most heinous and infamous massacres and land takeovers of that war. 400 Palestinian villages were wiped off the map in the war. The Palestinians had no standing army and its leaders were exiled by the British about ten years before. Had the other Arab armies not "invaded" Israel in May 1948 to protect the Palestinians, who knows what Israel would've done to the Palestinians. In 1956, Israel invaded Egypt with British and French help. In 1967, Lyndon Johnson wrote in his memoirs that he felt double-crossed by the Israelis after he told them he didn't think an Egyptian attack on Israel was imminent. Israel then attacked Egypt, anyway, then used fake transmissions telling Jordan that Egypt was winning battles, and this drew Jordan into the war. The Arabs did attack Israel in 1973, but Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982.


The
>US has recognized Jerusalem as
>the capital of Israel, but
>Clinton kept on using his
>veto to stop the embassy
>from being moved. Also, the
>UN Resolution 242 does not
>refer to Jerusalem as occupied
>territory, and the person who
>wrote it has said that
>many times.

The official US position on Jerusalem is that negotiations will decide the fate of the city. East Jerusalem should be handed over to the Palestinians because A)Palestinians are either Muslim or Christian and therefore Palestinians should control the Muslim and Christian holy sites in Jerusalem; and B)Israel neglects the Palestinian neighborhoods in Jerusalem, so Palestinian residents there should also be under Palestinian jurisdiction. Again, the Palestinians are not talking about dividing the city physically. It is possible to have joint sovereignty over the city. Yet, Israel thinks that's a problem.
>
>When does Israel restrict access to
>holy sites?

When Palestinians need permits to get into Jerusalem and they are not given the proper permits. That's when.


The previous Jordanian
>government restricted access for both
>Jews and Christians, and desecrated
>many Jewish sites. Jerusalem was
>neglected, and didn't even have
>many essential municipal services until
>Israel liberated it.

That was Jordan. We're talking about Palestinian control of Jerusalem, not Jordanian control. Today, Jewish parts of Jerusalem are doing a lot better than Arab parts. So Israel isn't doing much better when it comes to municipal service in Arab East Jerusalem. But what about the potential desecration of Islamic sites, such as the Al-Aqsa Mosque. Israel is digging tunnels under the Al-Aqsa Mosque which could potentially cause the Mosque to collapse. If Israel thinks it is dealing with Islamic fury now, it would be nothing compared to the fury not only from Palestinians, but from the entire world's Muslims if the Al-Aqsa mosque collapsed. And what about Arab Mosques that were turned into pharmacies and museums. I have pictures as proof.