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Posted by MisterGrump, Fri Mar-30-01 08:01 AM
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>>> >
>>I agree. However, HWCUs either accept
>>on "merit" or in the
>>case of certain state and
>>public universities' Affirmative Action Policies
>>they accept the percentage equal
>>to the population percentage of
>>that particular state. Unfortunately, some
>>states do both, these tend
>>to te flagship institutions of
>>the states' public education system(My
>>school, The University of Missouri-Columbia,
>>is such an example). So
>>these criterion pose the question
>>to you: What exactly are
>>the reasonable proportions that will
>>help the African-American community?
>>
>>Not all HBCU's are like your school first of all, second of all the proportions are higher than in white universities, therefore we obviously still need them.

Yeah, but which universities do you have in mind? You haven't fully answered the question. Can you really accuse the University of Maryland-College Park of being racist in their admission policies if the racial percentages of the student body mirror that of the state's population? Yet, what happens when the public institution is also a very comeptitive one such as UCLA and UC-Bekeley?

>>> >
>>Okay, another question. Is there really
>>a need for a physical
>>education requirement to graduate when
>>you are a civil engineering
>>major? Do you find it
>>neccessary that physical science majors
>>are required to have a
>>foundation in humanities and liberal
>>arts?
>>
>>White Universities have these same requirements, especially concerning freshman, or sophmore year! All my friends at White Universities have these same complaints, so that has nothing to do with HBCU's! You can't put that on black colleges! You can't base your opinion on just your own black college.

Base of opinion? You misread the question, that wasn't targeted at either type of school. it was to see if you agreed that the curriculums at some schools are outdated.



>NO you didn't get it!
>Hampton is 89% black and
>11%other/white/international/asian etc. So if
>we have 11% white and
>other and were private, and
>other white schools only have
>2% black! We are more
>diverse than them! I
>am clearly not stating that
>were more diverse because we
>have majority blacks, you didn't
>read correctly!

Check these 2 key words in ya statement: "2% Black" and "11% other"

Those schools that you say have the "2% Black" also seem to have 11% Asian(or some higher percentage number) in their student populations. Are you saying that these school are less diverse because they have lesser percentages of Blacks? Also, like I stated earlier, these schools also have higher academic standards than most universities and they are private, which means that they're not cheap and affordable either.


>
>Also, there are good black colleges
>and bad black colleges, just
>like there are good and
>bad white colleges! I've
>never heard of your college,
>but it might be just
>the bad ones! You
>don't look at all white
>colleges in one lump sum,
>so why does it make
>sense to anaylze the black
>colleges as a whole!
>Not every black college is
>a Hampton, or a Howard,
>Spelman, or Morehouse! Hampton
>is the bomb, and we
>were rated in the top
>25 of all schools in
>the south U.S. news and
>world report! SO you got
>your answer right there!
>You have to look at
>them individually, that's just how
>it goes for college evaluations
>on a national level!

Go to any nedia outlet and ask about The University of Missouri-Columbia. They'll vouche I'm sure for the numbers of journalists amd journalism professionals that we produce. Hell, you see 3 of our alums on CNN on any given day.

That was the whole point of this post!!! The thinking you're implying now is that the "elite" HBCUs can survive w/o the other HBCUs. I'm asking y'all to look at the two as groups and not on an individual basis. Frankly, they should be.




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