>>NO. It is not normal for a member of a family to up and strap >explosives to themself and suicide bomb a civillian shopping >mall. They do it because there's an organized militant program >indoctrinating them then ordering the attack.
>
>Ok, first of by normal, do you mean conforming to your
>moral/cultural ideals? In which case no, its not normal. I
>agree that there are people encouraging them to do stuff.
>But they dont need indoctrinating, they already think those
>things.

I'm talking about normal human existence. I'm alarmed that so few people seem to see the perversity of suicide bombings


>>The US Army isn't going to brainwash anyone into carrying out a >suicide bombing. Wouldn't you say there's rather a lot of >difference between the "our side good, their side bad" >mentality and the "kill Jews become martyr" indoctrination?
>
>Ok, for a start, if you can indoctrinate someone to drop a
>nuclear bomb, and not feel bad about it even fifty years
>later, that is some good brainwashing, no matter what the
>global situation was. And are you telling me there isnt a
>"kill towelheads solve terrorism" mentality in the US army?
>Like I said, I read some interviews with conscientious
>objectors, who said they first started having problems with
>what they were being asked to do in the combat training
>where they were made to stab dolls made up as arabs...
>

But even so, that sort of indoctrination TO THE INDIVIDUAL is nothing like convincing someone to do a suicide bombing.

>>>it's like if the Palestinians were using nuclear weapons, and >people started saying "as long as people are poor and in >despair they will use nuclear weapons." Seems silly to think of >it as an organic product of the situation
>>
>>No, because if they had nukes, they would be rich.
>
>>like the Russians and the Chinese
>
>Whats your point?

I don't think this point is really worth discussing