14559, RE: good aurgument but Posted by HashimAbdulKhaliq, Thu May-24-01 10:33 AM
>I have to give you credit >on your respone but I >really do not believe that >the Qur'an can be considerd >an a reliable source in >this case.
So heres som info from the Bible:
"If you love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter (Saviour), that he may abide with you forever". (Jn. 14:15,16).
These things have I spoken unto you being yet present with you. But the Comforter who is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name (i.e. to fulfill the same mission), he shall teach you all things and bring all things to your rememberance, whatsoever I have said unto you". (Jn 14:25,26).
"And now I have told you before it has come to pass that when it is come to pass, ye might believe. Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the Prince of this world cometh and hath nothing in me".(Jn 14:29,30).
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of Truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me. And ye also shall bear witness because ye have been with me from the beginning". (Jn. 15:26,27)
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come to you: but if I depart, I will send him unto you". (Jn. 16:7).
These announcements of Jesus clearly imply that another comforter or Saviour was to come AFTER his departure. Christians believe Holy Ghost was there already with Jesus] This Comforter was to come AFTER Jesus. So explain this please. Here is more info on the Comforter: He will be the Prince of the world (Rahmatul-Lil-Aalameen i.e. Mercy unto all the worlds) and The Spirit of Truth (As-Saadiq, The Truthful). This is also the name of Muhamed (saws) Sadiq and Ahmed the trusted and the truthful. He was given these titles far before he received prophethood. He came with the Quran.
So who is the comforter ?
Also:
"…The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE Lord". (Mk. 12:29). "Thou shall worship the Lord thy God and Him ONLY shall thy serve". (Mat. 4:10).
"And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? None is good save one, that is, God". (Lk. 18:19).
"But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house". (Mk. 6:4).
Praying to God, Jesus said, "And this is life eternal that they might know Thee the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou has sent". (Jn. 17:3).
"For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that Thou didst send me". (Jn. 17:8).
"Verily verily I say unto you, the servant (the slave in R.S.V. footnote) is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him". (Jn 13:16).
So please explain the Worship of Jesus and the beleif that he is God (Allah).
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